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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Coon Duke]
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03/29/19 12:49 PM
03/29/19 12:49 PM
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Idaho, Lemhi County
Gulo
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I too have traps from a wide variety of manufacturers. Too, I'm a cheapskate. However, because of the extreme quality of the product and the phenomenal customer service from MTP, I'm pretty much not buying any trap for wolves and coyotes from any other outfit. MBs only.
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Tim Caven]
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03/29/19 12:50 PM
03/29/19 12:50 PM
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eastwood44mag
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Thank you to our friends and customers that have had our back. One of my main issues with the Duke 550 and one that I haven't seen addressed in this thread is the fact that Minnesota Trapline Products has been one of the largest dealers of Duke traps since day 1. Literally millions of dollars worth of Duke traps have crossed our packing tables over the years. In my opinion we represented the Duke Brand well for decades and got a knife in the back for our trouble. Forgetting everything else, this in itself to me is inexcusable, immoral, and a slap in the face.
No, Minnesota Trapline Products won't be stocking the Duke 550 as some have suggested. In fact being we mean so little to the Duke Company we will closing out all Duke traps and products over the spring and summer. Thanks again to our friends and customers who are supporting us in this. Tim Caven Looks like I need more of Tim's stuff. Build a dogless 550, please.
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Nate Dawg]
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03/29/19 12:50 PM
03/29/19 12:50 PM
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Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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What trap is the MB-650 designed after? I have been wondering that too though this thread. I thought the MB 650 was a knock off of the sterling but not being too knowledgeable about either trap I didn't say anything hoping it would get addresseit's own it's own.
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Tim Caven]
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03/29/19 12:55 PM
03/29/19 12:55 PM
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Nate Dawg
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Thank you to our friends and customers that have had our back. One of my main issues with the Duke 550 and one that I haven't seen addressed in this thread is the fact that Minnesota Trapline Products has been one of the largest dealers of Duke traps since day 1. Literally millions of dollars worth of Duke traps have crossed our packing tables over the years. In my opinion we represented the Duke Brand well for decades and got a knife in the back for our trouble. Forgetting everything else, this in itself to me is inexcusable, immoral, and a slap in the face.
No, Minnesota Trapline Products won't be stocking the Duke 550 as some have suggested. In fact being we mean so little to the Duke Company we will closing out all Duke traps and products over the spring and summer. Thanks again to our friends and customers who are supporting us in this. Tim Caven Hey Tim, good to see you posting here. One question I have is did you not design the MB 650 after the Sterling MJ600?
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Coon Duke]
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03/29/19 01:07 PM
03/29/19 01:07 PM
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rogers city mi.
jeff karsten
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Beav says what he thinks puts him in an unpopular light as opposed to many who join in with majority thinking I also have much respect for the Caven family having bought and used their products for a long time i use 4 to 5 doz. dukes along with same amount bridgers God only knows how many original northwoods and victors I have but their all similar in size and function al have good points and faults But its hard to understand the animosity for bringing out a product that mirror images another don't tell me you don't see that everytime you walk out your door and bringing peoples personal info to support your attacks is wrong
olden tyred
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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03/29/19 01:12 PM
03/29/19 01:12 PM
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Wisconsin
The Beav
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I can't believe that a Caven Is about to lose his job over a new trap hitting the market, There are all kinds of trap companies introducing a different type of trap and I haven't seen MTP closing the doors. In fact as new traps come out they are selling them so I don't see any reason to panic.
I'm going to buy some new Duke 550s and see how they work.
It wasn't a Caven, it was an employee who saw this and was concerned about his job. Beav, I know you're old, but your reading comprehension should still be okay.  Hey boss I corrected that statement.
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: The Beav]
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03/29/19 01:17 PM
03/29/19 01:17 PM
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Paul Dobbins
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He didn't say Caven was the one worried about HIS job. I get It. But do you really think they are going to stop building MB550s. No one said they were going to stop building 550s. The fear the fella had was that the demand would decrease, which may jeopardize his job as a full time employee. Dang Beav, you sure want to twist things to fit a narrative that isn't there.
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Coon Duke]
#6504492
03/29/19 01:28 PM
03/29/19 01:28 PM
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The Beav
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OK OK
but I hope by me buying Duke 550s doesn't effect his job status.
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: TreedaBlackdog]
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03/29/19 01:29 PM
03/29/19 01:29 PM
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Catch22
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Last I knew, Duke traps were made in Korea, not China.......and likely you are reading this on a platform not made in the USA......if the MB550 was not patented, business is business and always will be. If it was, that is what patent lawyers are for. Duke #2 SJ is made in China.....
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Cletis Richards]
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03/29/19 01:33 PM
03/29/19 01:33 PM
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Nate Dawg
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Hey Tim, good to see you posting here. One question I have is did you not design the MB 650 after the Sterling MJ600? Did the Miles trigger come from the Sterling 600 trigger or the Sterling from the Miles triggering system?????????? [/quote] Excellent point.
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Tim Caven]
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03/29/19 01:34 PM
03/29/19 01:34 PM
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potter co. p.a.
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Thank you to our friends and customers that have had our back. One of my main issues with the Duke 550 and one that I haven't seen addressed in this thread is the fact that Minnesota Trapline Products has been one of the largest dealers of Duke traps since day 1. Literally millions of dollars worth of Duke traps have crossed our packing tables over the years. In my opinion we represented the Duke Brand well for decades and got a knife in the back for our trouble. Forgetting everything else, this in itself to me is inexcusable, immoral, and a slap in the face.
No, Minnesota Trapline Products won't be stocking the Duke 550 as some have suggested. In fact being we mean so little to the Duke Company we will closing out all Duke traps and products over the spring and summer. Thanks again to our friends and customers who are supporting us in this. Tim Caven good for you
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Coon Duke]
#6504507
03/29/19 01:40 PM
03/29/19 01:40 PM
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Northeast Oklahoma
Mike in A-town
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It's an interesting discussion...
I believe in a free market. But I also understand why folks would want protection, or at least a little courtesy.
Some folks claim that patent protection stifles innovation... A person can put something on the market and rest on their laurels until the patent expires. But on the flip side, why go to all the trouble of marketing an idea if someone is going to steal the design and undercut you? So patent protection may indeed encourage folks to get a product on the market and allow them to recoup costs and make some money.
As far as the MB 550 vs the Duke 550... I don't use 550 traps so I don't have a dog in this fight.
Carry on.
Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
Vladimir Lenin
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Re: New Duke 550-OS Pro Series
[Re: Coon Duke]
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03/29/19 01:41 PM
03/29/19 01:41 PM
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Wisconsin
The Beav
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And with out China we wouldn't be selling much American produced fur.
Just think of all the poor Chinese people that would be put out of work If Duke stopped making traps In that country.
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