Re: Iran
[Re: Zim]
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British tankers. Iran is ruled by IslamoMarxists in the Baathists. The Baathist were created by France to rule in Syria. Saddam Hussein was a Baathist. For the record, the Iranian Revolution was British sponsored to remove the CIA's American Shah who booted out the British regime. Ayatollah Khomeini, was a British subject, as his father was an Anglo. There are photos of him in a suit and tie. Jimmy Carter initiated his NSA Director Zbigniew Brzezinksi's radical Islam doctrine in Iran, to fight the Soviet Union, who had invaded Afghanistan.
That is the background on Iran, except that Iran has a treaty with Russia for mutual self defense. Iran if it is attacked, Russia has legal authority to assist Iran in defense.
Iran has been goading the United States to attack for a number of years. If you examine British policy, along with American financiers, they have been trying to start a war with the Russians, in order to gain control over the Russian natural resources again. Russia has not taken the bait. The reason Iran wants America to strike is Iran can and will survive an air war. Iran has very rough country which would make an invading army bleed. They have WMD's and superior Russian defensive weapons. An American Vietnam in Iran or a defeat, would restructure the entire Mideast, including the position of the Saudi's and the Israeli's. Saudi Arabias Sunni regime would probably collapse.
The British as in the two previous world wars, have positioned America with the French to take on Russia. That would be a mistake, as war would shatter eastern Europe, the United States and leave the British and French in control again.
Keith is correct in the problem in the world is the emerging Socialists of central Europe. The Germans and French overthrew the EU elections for two incompetent appointees, which the people did not vote for. Angela Merkel though is not the problem. She has some serious health issues. The person the Germans are looking to is the Austrian Sebastian Kurz, who is a leftist and in his tenure as Chancellor of Austria and President of the EU, he outmaneuvered Donald Trump across the global board in treaties with Japan, Africa, China and South China, along with Russia. The EU is moving hard for a dictatorial centralized federal state. A rule like this will supplant the United States in time due to the emerging consumer market of Africa, as the United States is focused on China which the data shows is dying out because of age within 30 years. It is in a number of nation's interest to draw America into a conflict with Iran. As Iran keeps poking at the United States, it is logical to conclude that they will bring the pokes to the American shores which will leave not any alternative.
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Re: Iran
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North Korea, thanks to President Donald Trump, is now for the most part doing what we want them to. Iran is not. Anyone who watches, reads or listens to the news should know this.
Keith Only if you watch Fox News North Korea did 17 missile tests in 2017. Thanks to President Donald Trump, North Korea then went 522 days without any missile tests at all. The test in May was of a short range missile not prohibited by Kim's own self moratorium on testing ballistic missiles. https://www.foreignaffairs.com/arti...6/why-north-korea-testing-missiles-againKeith
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Re: Iran
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Iran is apparently preparing for war by refitting their navy vessels with glass bottoms so that they can keep an eye on their air farce from day 2 of a conflict. Clever little sheet heads.
Let's go Brandon
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Re: Iran
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I would like to see a War Tax paid by all Americans every time we go to war. If that is done politicians would be a lot more careful about deciding which conflicts they decide are of benefit to this country and her people. I would guess most Americans already know that our taxes pay for our wars. Taxes are what provides most of the US budget. Keith Not even close to being close to a fact for our wars.
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Re: Iran
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Grackle would just as soon the US just roll over on their back and not try to defend itself.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: Iran
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Wars as of late have been paid for by deficit spending.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Iran
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What does our military do if they ain't fighting? Still got to be somewhere.
Zim Why?
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Iran
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Wars as of late have been paid for by deficit spending.
Kinda our own fault. Take a country and give the spoils of war back to them..... minus the payments to the political players. If instead we used the spoils of war to pay for the war, we would be sitting in a much better position fiscally.
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Re: Iran
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Grackle would just as soon the US just roll over on their back and not try to defend itself.
Not at all. But we do need to stop using our taxes to be the global police. Our kid's kids will never get our current war paid for.
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Re: Iran
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What does our military do if they ain't fighting? Still got to be somewhere.
Zim Yeah....like go home and rejoin the civilian workforce.
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Re: Iran
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What does our military do if they ain't fighting? Still got to be somewhere.
Zim Why? I guess what I meant is all those fine men and women signed on for is to defend our country. So they train, practice, for what? I think the job description was pretty plain. I suppose it is way more expensive to deploy and pay more in combat pay and so forth. I thought that what our military was for, I do not want a war at all but have always thought that military might, along with a strong hand would be the best deterrent for such. Zim
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