Re: Missing wi brothers in Breymer mo
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07/29/19 01:12 PM
07/29/19 01:12 PM
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Very sad for the families involved.
Here is the latest from a local news station, thank goodness for GPS data from the rental truck.
CALDWELL COUNTY, Missouri (WBAY) - A man made his initial appearance before a judge Monday morning in connection to the investigation into the disappearance of two Shawano County brothers .
Garland "Joey" Nelson is charged with Tampering With a Vehicle in Caldwell County, Missouri. He's being held without bond at this time.
A probable cause statement released Friday says Nelson admitted to driving the truck rented by Nick and Justin Diemel prior to their disappearance. The Seymour area brothers visited Nelson's farm in Braymer, Missouri, last Sunday. That's their last known location prior to their disappearance. Investigators said Friday that the Diemel brothers are presumed dead.
Nelson appeared before a judge Monday via video. The court denied a request to change the "no bond" status. A bond hearing is scheduled for Aug. 1 at 10 a.m.
Missouri investigators will hold a news conference Monday at 4:30 p.m. to discuss what they've called a long-term death investigation.
Investigators are still actively searching the Nelson farm outside of Braymer.
"We do have a suspect in custody," Clinton County Sheriff Larry Fish said Friday afternoon. "We are not releasing any of the charges."
Sheriff Fish would not confirm if the suspect in custody is 25-year-old Garland "Joey" Nelson. However, a probable cause statement obtained by Action 2 News shows that Nelson admitted to driving Nick Diemel's rental truck after the brothers visited Nelson's sprawling farm property in Braymer.
The probable cause statement says Nelson admitted driving Nick Diemel's rental vehicle from his Braymer home and parking it in a commuter lot on Interstate 35 and Highway PP in Holt. Holt is about 40 miles southwest of Braymer.
Here's the timeline, according to the probable cause statement:
GPS information shows the Diemel's rented 2019 F250 Ford truck left a hotel in Cameron, Mo., at about 8:49 on the morning of July 21. They traveled east on Highway 36. At about 9:26 a.m., the rental truck pulls into Joey Nelson's driveway on Catawba Road in Braymer.
At 11:44 a.m., the rental truck leaves Joey Nelson's property.
At 12:18 p.m., the truck is recorded on a security camera at Casey's General Store in Polo. The truck is driving south on Highway 13. Security camera video shows no passenger in the front seat.
At 12:19 p.m., the rental truck is captured on security camera of a Hy-Klas Foods. It's going west on Highway 116. Again, video shows no passenger in the front seat of the truck.
At 12:45 p.m., the truck pulls into the commuter lot at Highway PP and I-35 in Holt. The truck was left running with the keys in the ignition and the lights on. The probable cause statement says Nelson admitted to leaving it there.
"Based on my investigation, I believed Mr. Nelson drove the 2019 Ford F-250 rental truck without the consent of the renter N. Diemel's permission or the Rental companies [sic] permission," reads the probable cause statement.
Sheriff Fish said Friday that the search for the Diemel brothers continues.
Joey Nelson served two years in federal prison for fraud. Federal court records say Nelson engaged in a scheme to sell more than 100 cattle he did not own and kept the money. He was ordered to pay more than $262,000 in restitution to multiple victims, including the USDA Farm Service Agency, individual farmers, and another cattle company that operates similar to the Diemels' livestock business. The Diemels were not named in that case.
Investigators using search warrants have been "checking buildings, ponds, waste piles -- we're just looking anywhere we can to just find these brothers."
Sheriff Fish said investigators are also at other locations in Clinton and Caldwell counties with search warrants. He did not discuss details but said, "There have always been multiple searches going on."
Nick Diemel, 35, and Justin Diemel. 24, were co-owners of Diemel's Livestock in the Seymour area. They had traveled to Missouri for business. Joey Nelson was a known client of Diemel's Livestock.
Diemel cousin Rob Krull and Diemel Livestock employee Rob Chupp traveled to Missouri to help with the search.
Chupp tells KMBC that he spoke with Nick and Justin at about 11 a.m. Sunday. They were at a farm, and on track to fly out of Kansas City at 1:50 p.m.
The family are pleading for tips and information.
"We need answers. Family needs answers. He's got four kids at home and a wife," Rob Chupp told KMBC.
"The littlest piece of information might actually be a big piece of information."
Nick Diemel wife, Lisa, tells Action 2 News that farmers in Missouri and Indiana and other states raise cattle for Diemel's Livestock. Nick regularly travels as part of his business.
"I think we’re just trying to remain optimistic, they’re going to find them and they’re coming home," said Lisa.
On July 20, Nick and Justin flew from Milwaukee to Kansas City. They were due to return home on Sunday, July 21.
Lisa says she last spoke with Nick at 8:55 a.m. Sunday. She says the men were about to travel to a client's farm to discuss business. Lisa says the client has had previous business with Nick Diemel.
Neither Nick or Justin answered texts or phone calls since that 8:55 a.m. conversation.
"I call him every morning, I call him every night, I send a Facebook message, I text him, his phone doesn’t go to voicemail, Justin's goes right to voicemail, so I feel like maybe they can ping something off of social media," said Lisa.
Later, the Diemel's rental truck was found at the park-and-ride in Holt. Nick and Justin were not in the black Ford F250 four-door truck.
“Nick is a father of four kids. He's my high school sweetheart. Him not contacting us... we didn't go for long when he was on trips to check on me or talk to our children,” Lisa Diemel tells Action 2 News.
Anyone with information on the case is asked to call the Clinton County Sheriff's Office at 816-632-8477.
A benefit fund is set up for the Diemel family at Community First Credit Union. Donors can send checks to this address:
Community First Credit Union P.O Box 1487 Appleton WI 54912-1487
Make checks payable to "Diemel Brothers Benefit.
Forever in debt to my Father who introduced me to trapping. May I be half the man he was.
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Re: Missing wi brothers in Breymer mo
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#6583591
07/29/19 01:54 PM
07/29/19 01:54 PM
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Kart29
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the cops are just picking on Nelson because he's an ex-con.
What from Christ that soul can sever, Bound by everlasting bands? None shall take thee From the Strength of Israel's hands.
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Re: Missing wi brothers in Breymer mo
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07/29/19 02:24 PM
07/29/19 02:24 PM
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Kart29
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Of course.
Doubt anyone here is personally effected by this tragedy so I don't think a little sarcasm is out of order.
What from Christ that soul can sever, Bound by everlasting bands? None shall take thee From the Strength of Israel's hands.
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Re: Missing wi brothers in Breymer mo
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07/30/19 08:04 AM
07/30/19 08:04 AM
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The first question that pops into my head, from my LE experience, is who pied up and drove back from where he dumped the truck. You can almost bet it was his girl friend. I would be squeezing her until her eyeballs were bulging... if aren't already doing that.
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Re: Missing wi brothers in Breymer mo
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07/30/19 08:27 AM
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I just looked all over for any news coverage on this - nothing. Had to use a search engine to pull it up. News outlets suck as they only push their agenda or whatever they can sensationalize. Well if he had done something serious like killing an eagle it would be all over CNN.
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Re: Missing wi brothers in Breymer mo
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07/30/19 12:11 PM
07/30/19 12:11 PM
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The sheriff saying that this investigation is going to be "long term"....wonder what he means by that? There must be some evidence that recovery is going to take a while. Otherwise, why mention long term?
Also, to state that it is now a death investigation...likely there has been evidence located that indicates those guys died, ie, blood, witness to the murder, or something.. He'll break eventually and tell what he did and where the guy's bodies are.
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Re: Missing wi brothers in Breymer mo
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08/02/19 10:18 AM
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Crime scene techs dont set up tents and sift for no reason. What you heard about being buried at feed lot is likely true.
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Re: Missing wi brothers in Breymer mo
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08/08/19 05:59 AM
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More information coming out about Joey Nelson:
GREEN BAY, Wis./FORT SCOTT, Kansas. (WBAY) - A Kansas farmer is sharing details about his business encounters with a man charged in connection to the Diemel brothers death investigation.
David Foster tells Action 2 News that he once called Garland "Joey" Nelson a friend. Foster says that relationship changed when business dealings with Nelson crumbled.
The owners of a Bonduel, Wis. business also did business with Nelson. Nick and Justin Diemel disappeared July 21 after visiting Nelson's sprawling farm in Braymer, Mo. The disappearance is a death investigation.
Nelson, 25, is charged with Tampering with a Vehicle in relation to the disappearance of the Diemel brothers. A probable cause statement says Nelson admitted to driving Nick Diemel's rental truck on the day of the disappearance.
On July 30, searchers found human remains on Nelson's 74-acre farm. Those remains have yet to be identified.
We're learning more about Joey Nelson from David Foster, the owner of Cash Cow Enterprises in Fort Scott, Kansas. Foster says their relationship began when Joey Nelson reached out to him about doing some business.
Foster says his frustrations grew when Nelson failed to pay up.
"I was getting a little bit more aggravated and he was coming up with more elaborate excuses, and one time he was basically threatening to commit suicide and all this, and it’s like the last thing I want to do is be the reason why somebody offs themselves," says Foster.
Foster said Nelson raised cattle for him. As the business deal soured, the cattle were returned to Foster in poor condition.
"Mine were returned, they were malnourished, starved, I mean skin and bone," says Foster. "I had to help pick the calves up off the ground, onto the trailer, just so I could move them off my property."
Foster started talking with other farmers who had similar stories about Joey Nelson.
"I called them up, and I started asking them about their relationship to Joey, and what I found was that they did not have a partnership with Joey, they might have done business with him once, but they said 'He’s a liar, he’s a thief, he’s a crook' and all this stuff. And I’m like, 'Yeah I’m starting to get that,'" Foster says.
Foster says he spoke with Nick Diemel several times and shared frustrations about business dealings with Nelson.
"I had talked to Nick multiple times prior to him going missing," says Foster. "The last time I talked to Nick was July 5th, and then the previous time I had talked to him before that, I remember him saying that he had told Joey to sell the cattle to send him a check."
Foster continues, "Then this last time I said, 'Well did you ever get a check or did you get paid?' And he said, 'Oh, they sent me a check but it wasn’t any good.' Something like that. And he was going to go down and basically beat his (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) or whatever, but still, a normal response to somebody who owes him over a quarter million dollars."
Foster tells us the disappearance of the Diemel brothers hits close to home.
"My banker threatened that we were going to go up there and start counting cattle, find out what had happened and why haven’t they been sold, and all this, which I envision is eerily similar to what the Diemels were going through," says Foster.
Eventually, Foster cut ties with Joey Nelson.
"Basically, I cut off all ties with Joey, I think it was May 16th, is the last text that I sent him, of this year, we had done business since May 11th, of 2018," says Foster. "That was the first contract that he signed here at my farm, in Kansas, to do some business together."
Foster started looking into Nelson's history. He discovered Nelson had spent two years in federal prison for fraud.
"I started doing all my own research. It didn’t take very long to find, oh, he’s already been in prison for 18 months or something like that. And so after he had dumped the cattle on my property, that’s when I really started diving in. Like, hey this is the last straw, this isn’t right, something is definitely wrong," says Foster.
The Kansas businessman saved phone conversations and texts with Nelson.
"Every little thing was a lie. Everything that he had ever told me. So as I started going back through phone logs, conversations, text messages, all this stuff I started doing my own private investigation and following up with any time he had mentioned somebody he had done business with, or whatever," says Foster.
Joey Nelson is scheduled to appear in a Missouri courtroom Thursday for a bond hearing related to the vehicle tampering charge. Stay with Action 2 News for updates.
Forever in debt to my Father who introduced me to trapping. May I be half the man he was.
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