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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6571111
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John do you have good success with buckets? I know les does, I ask cause every time I use buckets my bto turns out watery from internal condensation. I'll never use aquarium stones again I had a unexpected storm come thru and it ruined 10 gallons of rendering tails! Apparently water flows thru them like nothing


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: TONY.F] #6572146
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Originally Posted by TONY.F
John do you have good success with buckets? I had a unexpected storm come thru and it ruined 10 gallons of rendering tails! Apparently water flows thru them like nothing


Yes Tony, but I keep them under a black upside down tote outside or in a hayloft, to keep rain off.


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: traprjohn] #6572203
07/11/19 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by traprjohn

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I don't leave any 'hair' on mine.
I slit it from the 'butt' end twice, leaving 3 equal pieces, not even cutting all the way through.
I then fold it and shove it into a gallon glass jar and screw down the lid. I never 'gas it' with a tube, but will check it several times, opening the jar.
I set it right in the direct sun, starting in late Feb. / Early March.
Never had a problem and have made a bunch of good oil !

Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6573327
07/13/19 04:33 PM
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Agreed LT, no hair goes into mine
The hair end stays on the bone and gets shoved into a dirt hole


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: traprjohn] #6573363
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Originally Posted by traprjohn
Agreed LT, no hair goes into mine
The hair end stays on the bone and gets shoved into a dirt hole




Is there any harm in leaving the hair and bone in there?


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6573455
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Athletic tape at junction of lid and jar leav lid loose and wrap cloth tape around it no explosions and no wiggles easy and works.

Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: DucksandDogs] #6573606
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Originally Posted by DucksandDogs
Originally Posted by traprjohn
Agreed LT, no hair goes into mine
The hair end stays on the bone and gets shoved into a dirt hole




Is there any harm in leaving the hair and bone in there?
NO it wont hurt a thing just a matter of preference the hair will just stay in the jar with all the other nonrendering sludge.I've added it and subtracted it never saw one ounce of difference. Other then it takes more tails if you start taking away parts that will still render down.If your plan to sell it the cleaner more refine parts leave you with a cleaner oil that requires less straining.

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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6596709
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Has anyone tried using a pressure cooker to make bto? Can you explain how you did it ?
Gave it a puff. Filled a pressure cooker full of tail pcs. Cooked it for 45 minutes to get the temp weight to wiggle. Not sure how much oil is rendered usually produced?

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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: traprjohn] #6596713
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Originally Posted by traprjohn
Originally Posted by TONY.F
John do you have good success with buckets? I had a unexpected storm come thru and it ruined 10 gallons of rendering tails! Apparently water flows thru them like nothing


Yes Tony, but I keep them under a black upside down tote outside or in a hayloft, to keep rain off.

I keep my buckets (with air stones) inside an old chest freezer that quit working....double fly and weather protection.


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6597761
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I' ll try my luck with buckets one more time. But 'ill put those black molasses drums over them this should aid in rendering time as well. But I am done with air stones! The plastic these days is to cheap to handle the uv rays! After one season my air stones are so rotten and brittle wind will break them off. Maybe air stones in a bottle of water might be the answer! But honestly on bto I just snug the lids and roll with it . ill burp my jars every other day and be fine


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6597798
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Tire air valve stems is how I have learned to vent all our containers. I have showed them many times in the past. They last forever and don't damage or no need to drill hole in a perfectly good lid.

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Bob. New to this and donít understand how to use air valve stem without drilling?

Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: 080808] #6597870
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I drill a 1/2" hole with a paddle bit and pull the new stem thru the top end of the bucket to secure it just below the snapped on bucket lid so as not to interfere with good closure. I remove the valve core and lightly screw on the cap to allow the gas to escape that builds up.

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This method allows stacking of buckets and economizes space. Too many containers to set them around in single fashion when you have so many buckets of various materials aging and being stored until ready for their use.

Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6597971
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I need to go to the valve stem system my self. Bob your system looks to be the most fool proof of all of them!


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: TONY.F] #6597993
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Originally Posted by TONY.F
I need to go to the valve stem system my self. Bob your system looks to be the most fool proof of all of them!


I'd have to agree with that. The last couple 5 gal buckets of bait I made, I didn't take Bob's advice...thought the air stones would be ok. They are so fragile, I broke 4 of them just moving sheets off of them, that I had covering the buckets. What a PITA!

I offered to give Tony the rest of my supply of them...but he wasn't biting...lol. laugh

Next batch I make will have the tire valves. Thanks again Bob, for sharing that tip.

Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6597999
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Maybe my buckets aren't as air tight as your guys but I quit venting plastic 5 gallon buckets. I never had a problem with them pressuring up and I did 7 buckets of horse, bobcat , and deer scraps without any issues. I use the snap on removable lids.

Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6598004
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if you put those valve stems in backwards cant you leave the core in and the cap off?


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6598024
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I don't know if the valve pin would get enough pressure exerted onto the stem to vent the gas out. It is easy to clean the blunt end if you get swelling of product into the base of the stem by running a pipe cleaner or blunt Q tip into the vent to clear it out.

Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: Yes sir] #6598065
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Maybe my buckets aren't as air tight as your guys but I quit venting plastic 5 gallon buckets. I never had a problem with them pressuring up and I did 7 buckets of horse, bobcat , and deer scraps without any issues. I use the snap on removable lids.
I've had the same results the snap on lids with orings in the lids snap on tight enough to keep out flys but yet release all built up gases I still like the insurance policy a vent gives! Over time the orings dry and crack allowing bugs to penetrate your bucket. This takes 3-4 years but can and does happen. Just bto no worrys once oil starts producing flys don't bother it anymore


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6598173
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Thanks Tony on the heads up on the seals cracking

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