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Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: AJE] #6596163
08/16/19 06:33 PM
08/16/19 06:33 PM
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Amite county Mississippi
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Was re reading this the other day and got inspired, had a old #4blank in the pile and the springs where still crazy strong but somone has sharpened the jaws. A in litterly putting a beveled edge on them so I figured I couldn't make it much worse. Anyhow this whay I and up with.

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Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: AJE] #6596170
08/16/19 06:45 PM
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Your skills are definitely improving ! Nice job Wolfie!


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Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: AJE] #6596295
08/16/19 08:49 PM
08/16/19 08:49 PM
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Iowa
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There shouldn't be an offset to beaver traps even with teeth. The teeth should be under the jaws. IMO

Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: GreginGA] #6596680
08/17/19 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GreginGA
Assuming they can be found and purchased, are the Oneida 14 jump traps considered good beaver traps? The reason I ask is that I recall from years, ago, that some trappers felt the single under spring had a tendency to throw an animal's foot out of the trap as it closed. Opinions?


Not if the trap is set right , think about how the spring works in relation to how it's set. The 14 is a great beaver trap.

Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: AJE] #6596748
08/17/19 01:59 PM
08/17/19 01:59 PM
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Totally agree with ADC.

Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: AJE] #6596786
08/17/19 03:33 PM
08/17/19 03:33 PM
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Montana
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Nice work Wolf.If you turn that trap upside down and clamp the jaws in a vice,you can bring that gap together a little better and it should be more parallel.I get the issue about the offset but I believe it could be made to work if the bumps are close to touching the jaws,all the way across.

Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: AJE] #7180023
02/13/21 05:02 AM
02/13/21 05:02 AM
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Ttt one more time before going to the archives

Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: AJE] #7180330
02/13/21 12:00 PM
02/13/21 12:00 PM
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Listen to ADC wolfdog. You would be losing most of the beaver with that set up. The teeth need to be on top or under the jaw faces.Back to the drawing board.


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Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: AJE] #7180564
02/13/21 03:04 PM
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If any one decides to put teeth In their beaver traps look at using cement nails. They will give you a nice blunt type tooth and that's what you want.


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Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: AJE] #7180807
02/13/21 06:23 PM
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Blake and Lamb....double under spring..got these when Someone wanted to sell their fathers stuff.


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Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: AJE] #7180811
02/13/21 06:26 PM
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Dont step on that ,you'll get a sore foot.


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Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: Boco] #7193878
02/23/21 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Problem with toothed traps is they couldn't pass aihts or bmps because the injuries they caused were not within acceptable parameters of the injury scale 8 times out of 10.
Not trying to start a debate about traps, just stating the facts why they are no longer made.

I agree they don't meet the BMP and other parameters, but perhaps those parameters where a little subjective and emotionally driven to some degree.
It's accepted fact that a toothed trap can actually do less harm in some cases by allowing hemorrhaging to drain; apparently that is one of the reasons they used toothed traps when trapping the wolves that were relocated from Canada to Yellowstone Park. That's what I've heard anyway.


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Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: AJE] #7196506
02/26/21 07:51 AM
02/26/21 07:51 AM
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Northern lower Michigan
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I have some #4 double long springs given to me that had heavy fence staples welded on top of the jaws, then cut off to about 1/2 inch. They are wall hangers at my cabin. I have also seen this done to #3 coil springs, trap had a bluegill tied to the pan, trap was screwed to short 2x8. The trap was set, trap and board was turned upside down and floated in ponds for snapping turtles. Tied securely of course. With the increase in Loons I could never do it. But trout pond owners and snapping turtles are mortal enemies.

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Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: AJE] #7196914
02/26/21 03:13 PM
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I'm just curious how states actually 'allow' teeth on a beaver trap ?
I know when I was up in Minnesota , they did and I 'think' maybe , Montana, Alaska, Idk ?
Anyone remember the Wyoming Big Iron LS trap that O'Gorman used to sell, with the spring being like one on a kill trap.
I may be a little off on the name, but some of you may know. . .

Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: AJE] #7196976
02/26/21 04:19 PM
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I've seen pics of them. Dirk Miller recommended them in his book(had pics).
Wish we could use them for beaver. Lot less escapes


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Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: LT GREY] #7196980
02/26/21 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LT GREY
I'm just curious how states actually 'allow' teeth on a beaver trap ?
I know when I was up in Minnesota , they did and I 'think' maybe , Montana, Alaska, Idk ?
Anyone remember the Wyoming Big Iron LS trap that O'Gorman used to sell, with the spring being like one on a kill trap.
I may be a little off on the name, but some of you may know. . .

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Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: AJE] #7197046
02/26/21 05:36 PM
02/26/21 05:36 PM
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That’s a sweet trap.


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Re: Teeth on a beaver trap [Re: AJE] #7209425
03/08/21 06:40 PM
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Central Ohio
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Yep Wolfie, that's the one !!!

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