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Re: Mid to high end conibears
[Re: K9BeavCoon]
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10/02/19 05:11 PM
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yukonal
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So i’d like to try some magnum Bridger’s or maybe Bellisle’s. What’re your guys’ experiences with these traps? Are there any reasons to choose one over the other? Some of you guys get so hung up on defending your Dukes, that you forget the ORIGINAL question, from the op. He's looking for help or advice about one or both of these traps. To the original poster...like others have stated, Belisle has the best safety, and best trigger of the 330 size body grips...in MY opinion. They are fast, and they are strong. You'll have them for a very long time, after you buy them. I've used Victor, Bridger, Duke, and Belisle.
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Re: Mid to high end conibears
[Re: yukonal]
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10/02/19 09:09 PM
10/02/19 09:09 PM
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Orergon
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So i’d like to try some magnum Bridger’s or maybe Bellisle’s. What’re your guys’ experiences with these traps? Are there any reasons to choose one over the other? Some of you guys get so hung up on defending your Dukes, that you forget the ORIGINAL question, from the op. He's looking for help or advice about one or both of these traps. To the original poster...like others have stated, Belisle has the best safety, and best trigger of the 330 size body grips...in MY opinion. They are fast, and they are strong. You'll have them for a very long time, after you buy them. I've used Victor, Bridger, Duke, and Belisle. Exactly, 100%.
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Re: Mid to high end conibears
[Re: yukonal]
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10/02/19 09:18 PM
10/02/19 09:18 PM
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Iowa
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X3 on the Belisles. Another plus is the springs can't go around the corners of the trap either so they don't get all tangled up and hard to get set. So i’d like to try some magnum Bridger’s or maybe Bellisle’s. What’re your guys’ experiences with these traps? Are there any reasons to choose one over the other? Some of you guys get so hung up on defending your Dukes, that you forget the ORIGINAL question, from the op. He's looking for help or advice about one or both of these traps. To the original poster...like others have stated, Belisle has the best safety, and best trigger of the 330 size body grips...in MY opinion. They are fast, and they are strong. You'll have them for a very long time, after you buy them. I've used Victor, Bridger, Duke, and Belisle.
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Re: Mid to high end conibears
[Re: K9BeavCoon]
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10/02/19 09:27 PM
10/02/19 09:27 PM
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TONY.F
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ive had beavers alive on the bank in dukes too! Not much way to avoid that unless you use drowner cables. I agree its a unsightly event but IT happens. Murphys law if it can it will eventually . I used to feel the same way until I bought a dozen belizes. But if I was long lining dukes would fit the build. For theft reasons solely! Guess it wont matter now they priced them selves out of business. I fear all these higher end trap manufactures will endure the same fate .
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Re: Mid to high end conibears
[Re: K9BeavCoon]
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10/02/19 11:16 PM
10/02/19 11:16 PM
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Orergon
alaska viking
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Well, as to cost, and this just me:
I am a contractor, and ask myself: If I buy this particular tool, the best in it's class, can it pay for itself in one or two jobs?
If the answer is yes, and I am reasonably sure I will use it again, I buy it.
If I need a tool that might work one time, for a job I might do one time, I might buy a tool that will work one time.
Sometimes I get lucky and it works o.k. several times. Up to you.
Last edited by alaska viking; 10/02/19 11:19 PM.
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Re: Mid to high end conibears
[Re: alaska viking]
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10/03/19 07:58 PM
10/03/19 07:58 PM
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dustytinner
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Well, as to cost, and this just me:
I am a contractor, and ask myself: If I buy this particular tool, the best in it's class, can it pay for itself in one or two jobs?
If the answer is yes, and I am reasonably sure I will use it again, I buy it.
If I need a tool that might work one time, for a job I might do one time, I might buy a tool that will work one time.
Sometimes I get lucky and it works o.k. several times. Up to you. Very well said!
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Re: Mid to high end conibears
[Re: K9BeavCoon]
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10/03/19 08:44 PM
10/03/19 08:44 PM
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Wisconsin
The Beav
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That may be true when talking about high end tools versus lesser tools In the construction trade but were talking about a trap.
We have a trap with 2 springs and a triggering system that Is pretty much the same as any 330 BG. Springs on all 330s are pretty much equal In strength. I will admit a belise 330 may have stronger springs then most but a Duke 330 has some pretty stout springs.
I can with my cost buy 2 doz Duke 330s versus 1 doz belises that In It self will catch me more beaver and otters.
Comparing different 330s Is like comparing to different framing hammers. One may be cheaper then the other but It's still going to drive a lot of nails and get the job done.
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Re: Mid to high end conibears
[Re: The Beav]
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10/04/19 09:21 AM
10/04/19 09:21 AM
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Iowa
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That may be true when talking about high end tools versus lesser tools In the construction trade but were talking about a trap.
We have a trap with 2 springs and a triggering system that Is pretty much the same as any 330 BG. Springs on all 330s are pretty much equal In strength. I will admit a belise 330 may have stronger springs then most but a Duke 330 has some pretty stout springs.
I can with my cost buy 2 doz Duke 330s versus 1 doz belises that In It self will catch me more beaver and otters.
Comparing different 330s Is like comparing to different framing hammers. One may be cheaper then the other but It's still going to drive a lot of nails and get the job done. Cheapskate. lol Seriously though if the Belisles hold just a couple beaver every month more than the dukes, in the long run they will more than pay for themselves. Nothing wrong with a foot or tail caught beaver, you still get the same money as the one caught by the neck or suitcased across the body. Even the smaller Belisles will pay for themselves... ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2019/10/full-16258-19274-20141112_093801.jpg)
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Re: Mid to high end conibears
[Re: K9BeavCoon]
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10/04/19 10:31 AM
10/04/19 10:31 AM
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The Beav
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I won't show you the pictures of the coon that left their legs or even a shoulder In a belisle 160. These coon were reaching in those baited BG boxes. It's not fair to the animal.
A critter trashing around with a 330 on It's leg Is just asking for a bad situation.
I always figured you were doing something wrong If you were catching a beaver by the foot or tail or maybe just un lucky.LOL
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Re: Mid to high end conibears
[Re: The Beav]
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10/04/19 10:58 AM
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k snow
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I won't show you the pictures of the coon that left their legs or even a shoulder In a belisle 160. These coon were reaching in those baited BG boxes. It's not fair to the animal.
A critter trashing around with a 330 on It's leg Is just asking for a bad situation.
I always figured you were doing something wrong If you were catching a beaver by the foot or tail or maybe just un lucky.LOL What's not fair? The belisle or the baited BG box? Why is "thrashing" with a 330 any different than being caught in any other foot hold trap? Animals don't always head straight into the trap, hence the toe, tail, foot, nose, etc catches.
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Re: Mid to high end conibears
[Re: k snow]
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10/04/19 12:36 PM
10/04/19 12:36 PM
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The Beav
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I won't show you the pictures of the coon that left their legs or even a shoulder In a belisle 160. These coon were reaching in those baited BG boxes. It's not fair to the animal.
A critter trashing around with a 330 on It's leg Is just asking for a bad situation.
I always figured you were doing something wrong If you were catching a beaver by the foot or tail or maybe just un lucky.LOL What's not fair? The belisle or the baited BG box? Why is "thrashing" with a 330 any different than being caught in any other foot hold trap? Animals don't always head straight into the trap, hence the toe, tail, foot, nose, etc catches. Big difference In a foot hold being clamped on a foot then a BG.
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