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Prefered coyote/cat trap #6639511
10/14/19 02:14 PM
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This is not a loaded question. I'm curious , what jaw spread, dog less or dog on, Jaw thickness , offset width , is the most preferred coyote/cat trap for all coditions in your humble opinions?? Be nice please and thanks.

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Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: trappergbus] #6639528
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6"plus jaw spread,dogless,offset,outside laminated or cast jaws =MJ 600's #1,#2 - #3 Bridger Dogless fully modified I know the Victor Montgomery are a very good trap,but I have never used them.If your dealing with population area's dogs etc.very little snow to deal with the MB 550 2 coil offset is the best smaller jaw spread trap made,to this day I still use them in certain locations.I just prefer a little bigger jaw spread for bobcats and coyotes,bad side they take more dry dirt or waxed dirt.

Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: trappergbus] #6639529
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Im a Jake trap guy. MB 550 is also a great trap for both. My humble opinion


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Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: trappergbus] #6639543
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For yotes i like the KO Extreme inside laminated because we have a5 3/4 inside restriction here in NY.
May be too much for cats but works for me.

Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: trappergbus] #6639545
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Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: trappergbus] #6639549
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Perhaps I should have worded it different, If you were given the opportunity to design such an animal with the above specs cosidered what would be your preferences?

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Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: trappergbus] #6639556
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Gary,it would be a Sterling MJ 675 and they would sell for $300 per dozen,i think that would be the perfect trap,the MJ 600 is the closest to perfect coyote/bobcat trap for the northern climate that we trap in.

Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: trappergbus] #6639559
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Would adjustable pan tension dogless help?

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Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: trappergbus] #6639563
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I would take dog on Bridger # 3s offset jaws and fully modify them with outside lamination, welded baseplate and centered D-ring, bubble the jaw tips, outfit them with enlarged PIT style pans and stainless steel rod dogs, with 1 foot of #2 heavy duty twist link chain, three swivels and one of the new shock spring/swivels designed by Kim Harris and super chain stakes, unless trapping in brushy country then Id want ten feet of chain and a heavy duty drag.

If I could make that trap with cast jaws like the mb550 has that would be awesome too.

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Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: trappergbus] #6639569
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The 550 design cast jaw with 6 inch jaw spread with a full 1/2 jaw face would be awesome.


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Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: trappergbus] #6639571
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Originally Posted by trappergbus
The 550 design cast jaw with 6 inch jaw spread with a full 1/2 jaw face would be awesome.

Someone would still laminate that. grin


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Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: Steelflight] #6639574
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Originally Posted by Steelflight
Originally Posted by trappergbus
The 550 design cast jaw with 6 inch jaw spread with a full 1/2 jaw face would be awesome.

Someone would still laminate that. grin

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Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: trappergbus] #6639580
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Originally Posted by trappergbus
The 550 design cast jaw with 6 inch jaw spread with a full 1/2 jaw face would be awesome.


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Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: trappergbus] #6639714
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#3 and #4 Vic/ Montgomery offset .


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Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: trappergbus] #6639722
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A true 6 inch inside jaw measurement offset jaws 1/2 jaw face is great but my concerns are they soon going to force us to a Canadian jaw measurement??? Dogless or the same dog and pan setup on the mb 550 is nice set up also. Oh and round jaw also. Because they do break cover better imo.


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Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: trappergbus] #6640192
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Dont the mb 650 cast have a 6 inch inside jaw spread on them? I cant use anything bigger than a 6 inch inside jaw spread on land in Arkansas.

Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: trappergbus] #6640274
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Since we are discussing dream trap builds. What are the merits between doglegs and regular? Does losing that much trap really help?


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Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: bobcat_trapper] #6640275
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Originally Posted by bobcat_trapper
Dont the mb 650 cast have a 6 inch inside jaw spread on them? I cant use anything bigger than a 6 inch inside jaw spread on land in Arkansas.


It depends which version.The cast jaw,inside lam,inside/outside lam,should all be well under 6".Not sure about the others.

Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: red mt] #6640276
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Originally Posted by red mt
A true 6 inch inside jaw measurement offset jaws 1/2 jaw face is great but my concerns are they soon going to force us to a Canadian jaw measurement??? Dogless or the same dog and pan setup on the mb 550 is nice set up also. Oh and round jaw also. Because they do break cover better imo.


Red,what are the Canadian jaw spread measurements?

Re: Prefered coyote/cat trap [Re: trappergbus] #6640321
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Per MTPs website, 650 il/ol inside 6 outside 6 7/8 650cast inside 57/8 outside 6 3/4 The Canadian jaw Bridger 3, jaw thickness is 5/8 but not sure if the reg actually is that or if it passes the testing to be approved. According to my sources they have gone to computer animation for testing to be approved or not. So in my mind exact jaw thickness may not be a factor if its designed like the 550 jaws. You guys with extended checks would merit from 1/2 jaw face, correct? With a 6 inch outside and a half inch jaw face the inside would be 5.5. If I'm correct this would be legal in all states. Same frame dimension as the 550 lever to lever. Thus same foot print so bedding would be real close.

Steel, I was a dog on guy till I tried dogless. Thanks to Red and Marty. No dog to get chewed on , bigger kill zone, and if the pan is below the jaws they are more screen friendly. Nothing to loose if its set up right.

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