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Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6649088
10/26/19 01:14 AM
10/26/19 01:14 AM
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Mi, Mecosta
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ambush32 Offline
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Mi, Mecosta
I'm going to try boiled eggs in a couple...just for fun...


Thought I was a good trapper until I started trapping coyotes......
Thought I was a good bowhunter until I targeted mature bucks....
Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: ambush32] #6649538
10/26/19 02:04 PM
10/26/19 02:04 PM
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Posts: 2,879
Maine
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Maine
If you live in the East and do not use Mark Zagger's method you are working too hard. If you want to see the entire system, go to his coyote U. I am pretty careful where I spend money. That was money well spent.
Mac



Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: Mac] #6651043
10/28/19 02:40 AM
10/28/19 02:40 AM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 70
western md,south central Pa.
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western md,south central Pa.
Originally Posted by Mac
If you live in the East and do not use Mark Zagger's method you are working too hard. If you want to see the entire system, go to his coyote U. I am pretty careful where I spend money. That was money well spent.
Mac

I second that. There is more to the system than just the pipe. Definitely worth the time and money.


pa trappers association,maryland furtakers
Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6651266
10/28/19 10:28 AM
10/28/19 10:28 AM
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Posts: 1,919
Rochester, MN
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Rochester, MN
Due to very wet weather I’ve done 90% pipe dream sets so far this year. NEVER caught anything with them in the past but thought there was no way I was going to get traps in the ground if I didn’t try it again.

Due to extreme mud and more rain coming, I put in 4 pipe dream sets. We got 2 inches of rain. First catch—a yoy red fox. Mud ball but still caught. Over the next three days I had a pull out (probably coyote by size of catch circle) and two more reds.

The season is early and I expect this set will shine.

Update

Two weeks later I have the cold to end all colds. Pulled my sets when we were facing snow and I knew I was going to really be sick. In those pipe dreams, I caught reds, big boar coon, skunks, and some fantastic coyotes. More than half the sets were lured with gland lures. The others with bait. It didn’t make any difference. The pipes were chewed and all but two catches were deeply in the traps. I’ve never experienced anything like it.

Last edited by Teacher; 11/10/19 12:17 AM.

Never too old to learn
Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6651344
10/28/19 12:53 PM
10/28/19 12:53 PM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 3,848
Maine, Aroostook
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Posts: 3,848
Maine, Aroostook
I've found this little spade works great for the set. It's easy to dig a hole just the right size both for depth to bury the chain and stake and for the trap footprint. I'll be doing a lot of these sets. [Linked Image]

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6651404
10/28/19 03:18 PM
10/28/19 03:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 279
Wisconsin
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Wisconsin
I haven't trapped canines very much for the last 10 years or more but had time this year since I'm semi-retired. I put out 12 sets the first day and had 2 coyotes the next day. The sets were made 50/50 pipe dream and standard dirt holes. I added 12 more sets and kept the same 50/50 ratio. I ended up with 6 coyotes in 5 checks and pulled them yesterday. 4 of the 6 came from the pipe dream sets. I used only food lure in the pipe. I had never made this set but had to try it after reading the 40 pages in the archives. I didn't have time to practice so had to learn in the field. I made a few mistakes at first but soon discovered the bedding is way more secure than I've ever had in the past and I started doing it on all my sets. Very solid. I highly recommend you all learn how to make this set. Thanks Mr. Zagger for bringing this to all trappers.


50 years trapping and hopefully another 50 still to come. OK, let's hope for 15 more.
Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: Lance Squires] #6651490
10/28/19 06:11 PM
10/28/19 06:11 PM
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Wabash, IN USA
Flipper 56 Offline
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Wabash, IN USA
Originally Posted by Lance Squires
Thanks Mr. Zagger for bringing this to all trappers.


X2
grin

Last edited by Flipper 56; 10/28/19 06:21 PM.

"Where Can A Man Find Bear Beaver And Other Critters Worth Cash Money When Skinned?"

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6651624
10/28/19 08:47 PM
10/28/19 08:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,894
Houghton Lake, MI
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Houghton Lake, MI
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Works like a charm. This set was out 10 days with most being rainy, windy and cold. Never touched it since it was made.


Wish I had more time to trap....
Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6651877
10/29/19 05:44 AM
10/29/19 05:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 584
Central New York State
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Central New York State
Set it and forget it!

That's what I always say......

I have an editor/producer ride and film with me yesterday and there now WILL be a Pipe Dream Set video for viewing showing the way I/me/MZ makes the set. If you go to YouTube there are several on there showing it, and while most give me credit for the set, all of them don't quite do it the way I do......doesn't mean it won't work their way, but most are just about the pipe and NOT about all the other thing I/me/MZ does to make it what I need, rely on, and ultimately call the Pipe Dream Set.

Oh, the video will be posted here, YouTube and my website and it will be free for the viewing public!

MZ


Eastern Coyotes.......Western Numbers.

Check out Coyote U!

YouTube Channel: https://youtu.be/JGwORfXpwOo

www.coyoteu.com

Mark@coyoteu.com
Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6651916
10/29/19 06:59 AM
10/29/19 06:59 AM
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potter co. p.a.
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thats awesome Mr.Zagger-can't wait.









Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: Zagman] #6652020
10/29/19 09:06 AM
10/29/19 09:06 AM
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Wabash, IN USA
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Originally Posted by Zagman
Set it and forget it!

That's what I always say......

I have an editor/producer ride and film with me yesterday and there now WILL be a Pipe Dream Set video for viewing showing the way I/me/MZ makes the set. If you go to YouTube there are several on there showing it, and while most give me credit for the set, all of them don't quite do it the way I do......doesn't mean it won't work their way, but most are just about the pipe and NOT about all the other thing I/me/MZ does to make it what I need, rely on, and ultimately call the Pipe Dream Set.

Oh, the video will be posted here, YouTube and my website and it will be free for the viewing public!

MZ


Thank you Sir!!


"Where Can A Man Find Bear Beaver And Other Critters Worth Cash Money When Skinned?"

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6652043
10/29/19 09:43 AM
10/29/19 09:43 AM
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Posts: 1,827
NNY
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NNY
Zag
Have you ever used BTO in your pipes? If I shouldn’t ask this question get Hillary to put a hit on me.

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6652140
10/29/19 12:46 PM
10/29/19 12:46 PM
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Posts: 317
Allegany State Park area of NY
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Allegany State Park area of NY
Mark, what color is your screen? Does it matter if its the silver window screen?

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: Zagman] #6652183
10/29/19 01:52 PM
10/29/19 01:52 PM
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Eastern Shore, MD
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Anyone use this set for foxes? How would you adjust this set back distance from the pipe for the smaller animal? Don't have many coyotes in my area yet and there have only been four killed or trapped in the past six years or so.

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: 080808] #6652316
10/29/19 05:39 PM
10/29/19 05:39 PM
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Central New York State
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Originally Posted by 080808
Zag
Have you ever used BTO in your pipes? If I shouldn’t ask this question get Hillary to put a hit on me.


Bachman Turner Overdrive?


Eastern Coyotes.......Western Numbers.

Check out Coyote U!

YouTube Channel: https://youtu.be/JGwORfXpwOo

www.coyoteu.com

Mark@coyoteu.com
Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: RGW] #6652319
10/29/19 05:41 PM
10/29/19 05:41 PM
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Central New York State
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Central New York State
Originally Posted by RGW
Anyone use this set for foxes? How would you adjust this set back distance from the pipe for the smaller animal? Don't have many coyotes in my area yet and there have only been four killed or trapped in the past six years or so.


I know a guy that caught over 300 reds last year on pipes.......and yes, I'd say you probably would be a little closer to the pipe if no coyotes.

Screen color? I like black.....because I put such little cover on the screen.....and some of the black shows through but blends in better, I think, than silver. That said.....if that's all you have use it!

MZ


Eastern Coyotes.......Western Numbers.

Check out Coyote U!

YouTube Channel: https://youtu.be/JGwORfXpwOo

www.coyoteu.com

Mark@coyoteu.com
Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: Zagman] #6652326
10/29/19 05:44 PM
10/29/19 05:44 PM
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Oklahoma
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Oklahoma
Originally Posted by Zagman
Originally Posted by 080808
Zag
Have you ever used BTO in your pipes? If I shouldn’t ask this question get Hillary to put a hit on me.


Bachman Turner Overdrive?

Beaver tail oil

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: J Staton] #6652361
10/29/19 06:19 PM
10/29/19 06:19 PM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,724
venango county,pennslyvania
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venango county,pennslyvania
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preseason pipe bith bacon grease in it


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Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: Zagman] #6652371
10/29/19 06:31 PM
10/29/19 06:31 PM
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Wabash, IN USA
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Wabash, IN USA
Originally Posted by Zagman
Originally Posted by 080808
Zag
Have you ever used BTO in your pipes? If I shouldn’t ask this question get Hillary to put a hit on me.


Bachman Turner Overdrive?


grin


"Where Can A Man Find Bear Beaver And Other Critters Worth Cash Money When Skinned?"

Re: Pipe Dream ? [Re: Zagman] #6652511
10/29/19 08:25 PM
10/29/19 08:25 PM
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Posts: 5,123
Arkansas
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J Staton Offline OP
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Arkansas
Originally Posted by Zagman
Set it and forget it!

That's what I always say......

I have an editor/producer ride and film with me yesterday and there now WILL be a Pipe Dream Set video for viewing showing the way I/me/MZ makes the set. If you go to YouTube there are several on there showing it, and while most give me credit for the set, all of them don't quite do it the way I do......doesn't mean it won't work their way, but most are just about the pipe and NOT about all the other thing I/me/MZ does to make it what I need, rely on, and ultimately call the Pipe Dream Set.

Oh, the video will be posted here, YouTube and my website and it will be free for the viewing public!

MZ

Look forward to that.


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