Re: Apparently keeping notes is a bad thing
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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10/30/19 07:54 PM
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im glad you two are getting it worked out
you don't have to like somebody to work with them
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Apparently keeping notes is a bad thing
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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Was a maintenance mechanic for several years, a maintenance supervisor for more, until I eventually moved into an office with carpet and a secretary. I ALWAYS had a small spiral bound notebook in my shirt pocket and wrote in it at least a dozen times a day. As cell phone cameras started becoming a thing, my notebook got used less and less because I would snap pictures. I didn't always need the pictures but if I got stumped, it was there to refer too. I think taking notes is a good thing, not a bad thing.
That said, i the guy training you is your boss, you have to do it his way. I would try to reason with him but ultimately, he's the boss. If this guy is not the boss, he still has more clout than you do at the moment. You may need to put the notepad away until your training is over. When you're the new guy, tread lightly.
-Ryan
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Re: Apparently keeping notes is a bad thing
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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"Never memorize anything you can look up."
That quote is attributed to Albert Einstein.
Take your notes and reference them when you need to. Wasted time, material, and labor are more expensive than taking 10 seconds to reference your notes to double check yourself.
Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
Vladimir Lenin
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Re: Apparently keeping notes is a bad thing
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He's probably afraid you'll make him look bad and he envies your motivation. This!! I worked in a paper mill for many years doing maintenance. An old timer taught me something that was pure gold. He learned the hard way and passed it on to me. A young engineer would give him a blueprint for a part to be made/machined. He would make the part and return it with the blueprint. The young engineer would go to fit the part to the machinery and find out he measured wrong. The engineer would then change the blueprint specs on the computer and print out a new blueprint and blame the machinist whom made the part. The machinist got wise to this. He would then make a copy of the blueprint when given the request then just store it for later if needed. When he made the part and returned the original blueprint. If there was any problems he had back up documentation. This did happen again. The young engineer got talked to , and the machinist covered his own butt. There are people out there who will throw you under the bus to make themselves look good. It happens A LOT. There are narcissists on every job site. Keep taking notes. PERIOD. "Age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill"
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Re: Apparently keeping notes is a bad thing
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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Don't stop taking notes, it will save you twice the headache and you are learning. review the notes often.
Doing aircraft maintenance, doing heavy maintenance...overhauling engines, etc. You read and re read every single word to the exact bolt and washer that goes on every inch of that airplane, then you reference with 3 other sources if need be. organizing and labeling like you mentioned is also key; also is attention to detail. In the LONG RUN, you are gonna get much farther ahead then he will. Most employers will value what you are doing. 10 SECONDS of notes is better then 20 minutes of rework. Speed comes with time and experience, the critical thing is accuracy. When the guy has been there for 15 plus years of course he can do things faster. Hes been doing the same task for 15 years.
If he wants to do all your work while you stand there, let him sweat more I say if he wants to micro manage. That's his problem, don't sweat it. Keep up the great work!!
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Re: Apparently keeping notes is a bad thing
[Re: Bob_Iowa]
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Ive worked with guys like that sometimes the best to do is stand your ground at times like you did, it seems sometimes they will respect you more for doing that then giving in, but I’ve seen it backfire as well, in the end he is your boss and sometimes you just have to feel them out to get along with them. Well the deal is he isn't my boss or even my supervisor. Apparently he just decided that he's gonna be the one who has to train me. He also talked fairly well of how he's ran off the last few guys so I'm starting to understand thing guy
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Re: Apparently keeping notes is a bad thing
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I'd rather have to explain why I did something right as to explain why I did it wrong . People like that act like they were born experts . Just keep taking notes and doing a good job and you'll be fine . Today he was going in on a tanget about how slow I was. He gets in my face and starts asking what I'm going to do when he's not there or anyone elese and the factory boss comes up and asks why the machine isn't work in yet. I told him basically what you said and he threw a dagum fit. Really emotional guy when he didn't get his way. Honestly I'm thinking of giving up the position or quoting because I'm not getting paid enough to deal with him
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Re: Apparently keeping notes is a bad thing
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My dad told me to keep a pocket calendar/ notebook in my pocket. My dad did similar with me. As been a teacher for the add 20 or so years and he still keep notes. He was an officer in the army for close to 13 years and I've found some of his old notes books
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Re: Apparently keeping notes is a bad thing
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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you can thump most anybody if they find out the fights on cause you just landed a uppercut
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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