School vaccinations
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Becoming a big thing around here,, schools sending kids home because there not vaccinated... what’s your guy’s opinion.......
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Re: School vaccinations
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Get them vaccinated, or keep them home.
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Re: School vaccinations
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No gov mandated vaccines here
Funny how all the ones vaccinated are the ones worried about it
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Re: School vaccinations
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No opinion, just noting the reality of who elected everyone from the school board to Albany following the federal mandates, as big pharm sells the serums, and wherever these wonderful working foreigners are gathered from Minnesota to California, even the kids who were vaccinated are catching the plagues of not that long ago. If you do not send your children to school, you are a criminal. If you do not have your children vaccinated, they are not allowed in school. The legal reality is the state will then seize the children, charge the parents with neglect and then by force vaccinate the children. CDC: Whooping Cough Outbreak Caused By Vaccinated Children [Search domain newspunch.com/cdc-whooping-cough-vaccinated-children/] https://newspunch.com/cdc-whooping-cough-vaccinated-children/In a PBS News Hour broadcast titled Whooping Cough Returns to California After Decades of Decline in March of 2011, reporter Joanne Faryon of KPBS in San Diego interviewed "two of the world's leading whooping cough experts" who had differing opinions about why whooping cough was returning among "highly vaccinated communities around the ...
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Re: School vaccinations
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Ask a Mayan or Inca about getting vaccinated!
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Re: School vaccinations
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The government knows best. It is silly to let people decide what's best for their children when we have government experts to do it
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: School vaccinations
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The government knows best. It is silly to let people decide what's best for their children when we have government experts to do it ^^^ *sarcasm level: expert* Well said.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke "We are fast approaching... rule by brute force." -Ayn Rand
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Re: School vaccinations
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The government should not tell anyone what they have to, or cannot, put into their body. It's beyond tyrannical to force someone to inject themselves or their children with chemicals against their will. That being said, everyone should get vaccinated, vaccines do not cause disease; the only people that think that are "google" doctors and uneducated folks. All my kids are vaccinated, and yours should be too. It should be done because it's the right thing to do though, not because some government goon forced you to.
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The government should not tell anyone what they have to, or cannot, put into their body. It's beyond tyrannical to force someone to inject themselves or their children with chemicals against their will. That being said, everyone should get vaccinated, vaccines do not cause disease; the only people that think that are "google" doctors and uneducated folks. All my kids are vaccinated, and yours should be too. It should be done because it's the right thing to do though, not because some government goon forced you to. I agree with you loosegoose. Lets take this one step further though. If your child is not vaccinated should they then be deemed unqualified to attend public school?
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Re: School vaccinations
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The government should not tell anyone what they have to, or cannot, put into their body. It's beyond tyrannical to force someone to inject themselves or their children with chemicals against their will. That being said, everyone should get vaccinated, vaccines do not cause disease; the only people that think that are "google" doctors and uneducated folks. All my kids are vaccinated, and yours should be too. It should be done because it's the right thing to do though, not because some government goon forced you to. I agree with you loosegoose. Lets take this one step further though. If your child is not vaccinated should they then be deemed unqualified to attend public school? I'm not sure about that. Government is required to provide free education, so there's a problem if they tell you that your kids can't come to school. But at the same time, I understand the desire to not have kids spreading polio and such like it's the 1950's. I guess if I had to pick, I'd say I'd have to lean toward the "freedom" side and say unvaccinated kids can go to public school.
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Re: School vaccinations
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Why would you not want to get your kid vaccinated? Many who will not get their kids vaccinated are paranoid about anything that can remotely be looked at as government related. I wonder if these folks accept any SSI past what they have paid in or know how easily their activities can be tracked because of their cell phones? There are also many who are trend followers and buy into what a few popular celebrities like Jenny McCarthy tell them: In 2007 there was an increase in celebrities promoting anti-vaccination rhetoric. Because of their celebrity status they appeared on several television shows and published multiple books advising parents not to vaccinate their children. This has led to an increase in the number of vaccine preventable illnesses as well as an increase in the number of vaccine preventable deaths.
The Anti-Vaccination Movement has a body count attached to its name. This website publishes the total number of vaccine preventable illnesses and vaccine preventable deaths that have happened in the United States since this 2007 increase in speaking out against vaccines.
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Re: School vaccinations
[Re: bulldozerjoe]
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danny clifton
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How does refusing to allow a non-vaccinated kid to attend public school protect vaccinated kids? The vaccinated kids wont get sick because of it. The un-vaccinated kid might though.
The only conclusion is that school boards and government agency's think that parents are to stupid to make intelligent choices.
There ARE risks with vaccines. Very low risks but still risks. The risk for allowing kids to get three day measles, mumps and chicken pox is also low. People my age have all had those things and most of us did not die from it. Polio and smallpox are gone for the most part. I have never met anyone that got lockjaw, (tetanus today) from stepping on a nail or whatever even though people constantly worry about it.
People who want their kid vaccinated have no problem doing so. I worry more about do-gooders always telling someone else how to live than I worry about typhoid fever. My kids all got vaccinated btw so all you types who want to tell everybody else how to live don't bother lecturing me.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: School vaccinations
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Tetanus morbidity and mortality has declined in the United States since the 1940s, when tetanus toxoid-containing vaccines such as the diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis (DTaP) vaccine became widely available. In the decades since, the United States has seen a 95% decline in the number of tetanus cases and a 99% decrease in the number of tetanus-related deaths. However, spores of the Clostridium tetani bacteria that cause tetanus still persist in soil, dust, and manure and can lead to an infection known as lockjaw if the bacteria comes into contact with exposed wounds, typically within 3 to 21 days.
“Unvaccinated or inadequately vaccinated persons are at risk for tetanus, irrespective of age, and recovery from tetanus disease does not confer immunity,” the study investigators wrote.
In the case study, investigators detail a tetanus infection in an unvaccinated 6-year-old boy that began after the child sustained an injury while playing outdoors on a farm. Although the wound was cleaned and sutured, 6 days after the injury the boy began to experience symptoms including jaw clenching, involuntary upper extremity muscle spasms, arching of the neck and back (opisthotonus), and breathing difficulty. His parents notified emergency medical services and the child was transported by air to a pediatric medical facility, where he was admitted to a pediatric intensive care unit and required sedation, endotracheal intubation, and mechanical ventilation.
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