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Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: k snow] #6676242
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I thing some guy do the whining must be the ones who pulled a bunch of their money out of the market around the time BO was elected and are still pouting cause the missed out on the growth they could have had during those eight years.

From Forbes:
The stock market had been in free fall a few months before President Obama’s election until just over a month after he took office. It then went on an extended run increasing 113% from his election day until the day Trump was elected. It was also up 42% in his first four years in office.

Best thing trump has done is not foul up the market by reversing the good work done by his predecessor wink

Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: gryhkl] #6676247
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
I thing some guy do the whining must be the ones who pulled a bunch of their money out of the market around the time BO was elected and are still pouting cause the missed out on the growth they could have had during those eight years.

From Forbes:
The stock market had been in free fall a few months before President Obama’s election until just over a month after he took office. It then went on an extended run increasing 113% from his election day until the day Trump was elected. It was also up 42% in his first four years in office.

Best thing trump has done is not foul up the market by reversing the good work done by his predecessor wink

How much tax payer money was pumped into the market to inflate it?
Your line of reasoning is flawed anyway grackle, when something is at rock bottom the only way to go is up. You were blessed that the recession didn't send you to the unemployment line, like happened with many of us, and were able to invest money in a market that could go no where but up. Some folks had to use investment money to eat since they were no longer employed.

Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: k snow] #6676267
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the Fed is buying the stock market with dollars printed out of thin air or created on a digital screen. End of story.

Has nothing to do with what ever clown sets in the White House.

The Fed runs the show.

All hail the Fed.


You only live once, so get over it!

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Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: muddyriverdogz] #6676272
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Originally Posted by muddyriverdogz
the Fed is buying the stock market with dollars printed out of thin air or created on a digital screen. End of story.

Has nothing to do with what ever clown sets in the White House.

The Fed runs the show.

All hail the Fed.

Wish they would decide to buy coon hides. smile

Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: k snow] #6676278
11/26/19 07:22 PM
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Maybe Trump or the Secretary of the Interior could mandate coon lined winter parkas and hats?

Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: k snow] #6676310
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They could if they wanted to.But it's a big club and you an't in it.


You only live once, so get over it!

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Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: ] #6676314
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Originally Posted by gryhkl
I thing some guy do the whining must be the ones who pulled a bunch of their money out of the market around the time BO was elected and are still pouting cause the missed out on the growth they could have had during those eight years.

From Forbes:
The stock market had been in free fall a few months before President Obama’s election until just over a month after he took office. It then went on an extended run increasing 113% from his election day until the day Trump was elected. It was also up 42% in his first four years in office.

Best thing trump has done is not foul up the market by reversing the good work done by his predecessor wink

How much tax payer money was pumped into the market to inflate it?
Your line of reasoning is flawed anyway grackle, when something is at rock bottom the only way to go is up. You were blessed that the recession didn't send you to the unemployment line, like happened with many of us, and were able to invest money in a market that could go no where but up. Some folks had to use investment money to eat since they were no longer employed.


And up and up and up. Lots of jobs created over those eight years too....Yep, trump was handed a much better economy than Obama was.

Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: k snow] #6676318
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"When interest rates rise, that can spook the stock market because it makes other classes of investments — such as bonds and CDs — more attractive. Zero and super-low interest rates in recent years have made stocks the only place for investors to make money, and the fear is that as the Fed raises rates, investors will start to look elsewhere."


Who is John Galt?
Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: k snow] #6676321
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I believe we should have Obama come back in an advisory role, you to help Trump out a little, you know, to keep him from f'n it all up. We really need the input of a community organizer that has 1 more birth certificate than he has had real jobs.

Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: muddyriverdogz] #6676324
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Originally Posted by muddyriverdogz
Originally Posted by hippie
Yea, of all things to attack Trump on, the economy isn't one of them if you want to be taken seriously.


Less people working today than during the 2008 financial collapse. That has not changed much sense 2013 but you can keep believing those number's they put out.The stock market isn't the economy for most.

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https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS...idlqrHAJoPJW6ZF0gNJHkrExUoENm6kHCOBkIxfQ





Lots of jobs created under Obama?

The link shown doesn't indicate that at all.

Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: k snow] #6676325
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The jobs lost in the 08 financial collapse have never been replaced as the chart above shows. And it's there own number's ! Yet they report full employment.

Bureau of Labaor statistic's..... . https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS...idlqrHAJoPJW6ZF0gNJHkrExUoENm6kHCOBkIxfQ

Pfff They would never lie.

Last edited by muddyriverdogz; 11/26/19 07:59 PM.

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Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: k snow] #6676328
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Crackle thinks they were, lol

Notice Trump changed the direction of your chart? GROWTH!

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There were more jobs created in this country during Obama's last thirty months than trump's first thirty.

Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: hippie] #6676331
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Originally Posted by hippie
Crackle thinks they were, lol

Notice Trump changed the direction of your chart? GROWTH!


A drop in the bucket.


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Ummm, no.
Can't you read? By the chart is month by month numbers.

Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: muddyriverdogz] #6676334
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Originally Posted by muddyriverdogz
Originally Posted by hippie
Crackle thinks they were, lol

Notice Trump changed the direction of your chart? GROWTH!


A drop in the bucket.


Small, yes. That's a cherry picked category that doesn't change in large jumps.

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Forbes:
Trump’s job growth falls short of Obama’s last three years

The Labor Department’s revised job count lowered the April 2018 to March 2019 by 501,000. Assuming that the almost 42,000 per month lower number is spread evenly across the 12 months, Trump’s 2018 total of 2.303 million jobs falls short of Obama’s 2014 to 2016 results and essentially matches his 2.302 million for 2013. And 2018 was helped by Trump’s tax cut sugar high.

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Sorry, the economy is one thing that even dems admit is going great. Y'all are barking up the wrong tree.

Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: hippie] #6676341
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Originally Posted by hippie
Ummm, no.
Can't you read? By the chart is month by month numbers.


The chart shows the Civilian labor force participation rate over 16 years. There are less people working today than there was in 08 by about 4 million.

Yet all the mainstream news reports full employment.

Last edited by muddyriverdogz; 11/26/19 08:12 PM.

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Originally Posted by muddyriverdogz
Originally Posted by hippie
Ummm, no.
Can't you read? By the chart is month by month numbers.


The chart shows the Civilian labor force participation rate over 16 years. There are less people working today than there was in 08 by about 4 million.

Not disputing that. I see it falling until around 2015-16 and now gaining some.

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