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Re: hope this is not fake news [Re: Marty] #6702526
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Originally Posted by Marty
UN troops that may be available are actually not a joke. The list of 'allies' include all EU nations, Great Britain, Australia and non allies would include Russia and China..



To include our own troops!

Re: hope this is not fake news [Re: cotton] #6702529
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This is why they went after our educational system 1st!

The average person doesn't even understand we have the right to overthrow our govt if they do something like this. Nor do they even understand the oath they swear!!!!!!!!

They will swear the oath then follow unconstitutional orders!!!! Out of pure ignorance and stupidity!!!!!!!

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Meanwhile the communist turds behind it all laugh at them!

Because they are the useful idiots!

Re: hope this is not fake news [Re: cotton] #6702549
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There are a lot of people, nations and organizations that would like to see the USA brought to it's knees. If you think this currant mess going on right now is by chance your wrong.

Re: hope this is not fake news [Re: Okie Farmer] #6702571
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Originally Posted by Okie Farmer
There are a lot of people, nations and organizations that would like to see the USA brought to it's knees. If you think this currant mess going on right now is by chance your wrong.


Yep, and they have a foothold within our gov't.
Folks don't give the "one world gov't" movement enough thought.

Re: hope this is not fake news [Re: brianmall] #6702579
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Originally Posted by brianmall
This is why they went after our educational system 1st!

The average person doesn't even understand we have the right to overthrow our govt if they do something like this. Nor do they even understand the oath they swear!!!!!!!!

They will swear the oath then follow unconstitutional orders!!!! Out of pure ignorance and stupidity!!!!!!!


It's a right and a duty to depose a tyrannical government.

Keith

Re: hope this is not fake news [Re: KeithC] #6702656
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Seems to me the president has the authority to activate or federalize the guard effectively removing them from State control. No to familiar with the guard, my 20 was all active. Someone say so if this is not so.
Thanks Brian

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Originally Posted by Bluerock
Seems to me the president has the authority to activate or federalize the guard effectively removing them from State control. No to familiar with the guard, my 20 was all active. Someone say so if this is not so.
Thanks Brian


That was my thinking too.

I suspect that representative McEachin's strong suit is neither the English language nor Constitutional law.

He, McEachin, says the governor can "nationalize" the National Guard.

A governor can't 'nationalize' anything. Nor can he/she federalize anything.

I the Gov calls out the Guard I would hope that Trump would federalize them and send them to the southern border. Watch the gun grabber's heads explode with that one


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Re: hope this is not fake news [Re: cotton] #6702701
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There are only around 7500 Virginia guardsmen ..... a drop in the ocean compared to the number of people they would be up against. If it comes to a confrontation at all a good part of those guardsmen will break ranks being that they are getting an order to violate their oath. The governor is bluffing and is painting himself and his cronies into a corner.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: hope this is not fake news [Re: white17] #6702704
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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by Bluerock
Seems to me the president has the authority to activate or federalize the guard effectively removing them from State control. No to familiar with the guard, my 20 was all active. Someone say so if this is not so.
Thanks Brian


That was my thinking too.

I suspect that representative McEachin's strong suit is neither the English language nor Constitutional law.

He, McEachin, says the governor can "nationalize" the National Guard.

A governor can't 'nationalize' anything. Nor can he/she federalize anything.

I the Gov calls out the Guard I would hope that Trump would federalize them and send them to the southern border. Watch the gun grabber's heads explode with that one



From what I understand

The guard is property of each individual state. The federal govt has to ask permission to deplyy guard. May be some between the lines type stuff in the event it is a national emergency etc... Etc...

Just look at here recently with border crisis andd certain states withholding guard from federal use. The federal govt can't take a states guard unless it is authorized by that state.

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Otherwise the guard would only be another branch of federal activity and control.

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CAJTMC here in Indiana was a big deal. Has been several timess in recent history.

Federalized, not federalized, federalized, not federalized

Re: hope this is not fake news [Re: cotton] #6702712
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Yeah I think you're right about that Brian. Seems to me some rat governor refused to allow the guard from his state to be sent to the border. Not sure whether the courts have weighed in on that or not


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And if my memory serves me correctly!?

The total sum of guardsmen and women are far greater than any army!

It's that way for a reason!

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Originally Posted by white17
Yeah I think you're right about that Brian. Seems to me some rat governor refused to allow the guard from his state to be sent to the border. Not sure whether the courts have weighed in on that or not



Im almost 100% on it.

My only doubt would be special occasion type stuff where federal govt needs to intervene for greater good of whole country.

National emergency disasters etc...

Re: hope this is not fake news [Re: cotton] #6702815
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Take a deep breath boys. In through the nose, out through the mouth.
With all of the folks showing up at every County Courthouse door in Virginia seeking a stop to this unconstitutional attack upon 2A, politicians up for election soon enough will not vote for a law which will undoubtedly cause them to lose their seat. That is all they really care about. Retaining their seat.

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Originally Posted by brianmall
This is why they went after our educational system 1st!

The average person doesn't even understand we have the right to overthrow our govt if they do something like this. Nor do they even understand the oath they swear!!!!!!!!

They will swear the oath then follow unconstitutional orders!!!! Out of pure ignorance and stupidity!!!!!!!


This is a very true statement!!!!

If war breaks out politicians, media outlets and public schools are my enemies. Politicians make the laws against the constitution but media and schools have been carrying out their propaganda for years. Enemy of the people.

Education system has been broke for years and needs total overhaul.

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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Take a deep breath boys. In through the nose, out through the mouth.
With all of the folks showing up at every County Courthouse door in Virginia seeking a stop to this unconstitutional attack upon 2A, politicians up for election soon enough will not vote for a law which will undoubtedly cause them to lose their seat. That is all they really care about. Retaining their seat.



That's a pretty long way of saying "aim small,miss small".

Re: hope this is not fake news [Re: Muskrat] #6702958
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Originally Posted by Muskrat
National guardsmen will do what they're ordered to do. Period.

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One of those incidents in history that we will never know the full story.

The "protesters" at Kent state were "interfering" with firefighters who were trying to put out fires to buildings that they had set.

The "protesters" were ordered to disband and never did.

The "protesters" were throwing rocks at the guard.

The Guard was never ordered to shoot into the crowd. Its unclear as to why they started firing, it is claimed by some that the guard did not fire the first shot.

We will never know.

Enough of the "protesters" at Kent State were not peaceful protesters, that is certain.

Re: hope this is not fake news [Re: cotton] #6702961
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Its OK to shoot the citizens that dont tow the republican party line.


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