Re: Northern Michigan Snaring
[Re: UPoldman]
#6736202
01/19/20 05:55 PM
01/19/20 05:55 PM
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Joined: May 2011
Garden,Michigan
Buck (Zandra)
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Garden,Michigan
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"Plodding along"is exactly what you do under Michigan rules.When I go back to deep snow trapping I'll go back to the footholds,the odds are about the same.
Buck(formely known as Zandra)
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Re: Northern Michigan Snaring
[Re: UPoldman]
#6736636
01/19/20 10:23 PM
01/19/20 10:23 PM
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Joined: Jul 2009
100 Mile House, BC Can
bctomcat
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100 Mile House, BC Can
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I doubt the additional swivel is the problem; as from a coyotes perspective I would think it would appear to be just another piece of bush junk. Do you have a picture of the set up?
Last edited by bctomcat; 01/19/20 10:29 PM.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: Northern Michigan Snaring
[Re: UPoldman]
#6736720
01/19/20 11:16 PM
01/19/20 11:16 PM
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Joined: Jan 2016
WI - Wisconsin
AJE
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WI - Wisconsin
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UPoldman, I wonder if you got a bunch of unwanted odor on your cables or supports
Last edited by AJE; 01/19/20 11:16 PM.
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Re: Northern Michigan Snaring
[Re: UPoldman]
#6737244
01/20/20 01:41 PM
01/20/20 01:41 PM
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Joined: May 2011
Garden,Michigan
Buck (Zandra)
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Garden,Michigan
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I doubt odors your problem.Welcome to the land of the Northern Michigan coyote.Everything you mentioned I've been there.Skittish,spooky,here today,gone tomorrow,possibly for weeks,etc.The northern Michigan coyote in the winter
Buck(formely known as Zandra)
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Re: Northern Michigan Snaring
[Re: UPoldman]
#6737832
01/20/20 09:14 PM
01/20/20 09:14 PM
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Joined: Dec 2007
Central MN
MNCedar
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Central MN
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I will try and take some pictures. I am snaring in cedar swamp. Nor much grass cover there. I have tried to use some fine dead cedar limbs for cover but as of now I can't say if they helped or not. As of today I have 48 CR's set on 4 bait locations and will be hanging more as sets appear. The fact that these are on bait may be the issue for what believe you are seeing as refusals. I find that to successfully be on a bait, the further away the snare the better the success. Along those lines, thick grass or tighter pinch points would be much more productive. Picking an effective bait location is extremely important and not as easy as a lot of people think. Just my opinion, and I learned that the hard way many times. I also walk in from the side in snow and make every effort to hide those foot prints as well.
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Re: Northern Michigan Snaring
[Re: ~ADC~]
#6737848
01/20/20 09:26 PM
01/20/20 09:26 PM
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Joined: Jan 2015
Houghton Lake, MI
strike2x
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Houghton Lake, MI
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Unless there is more to the regulations than S2X posted, here's what I would use in MI.
44" of 1x19 1/16" cable for the LOADED loop end. micro lock with a 285 BAD J hook, mini deer stop set exactly at the 4.25" mark, a real 1/16"x9ga metal wammy, inline #6 barrel swivel, 3' of 7x19 3/32 cable with a #9 ga end swivel. I'd use a 5' piece of 1/2" rebar with a 24" piece of #9 annealed wire wrapped and welded to the top (leaving the tag end stick out to keep the swivel from sliding off the top) driven 30" into the ground for my anchor and support. I'd drive that pole in beside some weeds or something to blend it in 18-20" off the side of the trail and reach my #9 support out to the edge on the trail with the 12" CR loop hanging 12" off the surface, centered in the trail. I'd come in from the side and not get any closer to the trail than I had to. That is all of the regulations. All on one page. The only one you missed is a relaxing lock. Can't use micros. I was using 10 " loop 6 to 8" of trail. I am setting my baits this weekend. I may try a few bigger loops higher.
Wish I had more time to trap....
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Re: Northern Michigan Snaring
[Re: UPoldman]
#6737864
01/20/20 09:34 PM
01/20/20 09:34 PM
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Joined: May 2008
Burton, Michigan
Mousey Trapper
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Burton, Michigan
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Rule of thumb for snaring, the size of your loop is the same as it's height of the ground, but not for beavers.
Last edited by Mousey Trapper; 01/20/20 09:40 PM.
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Re: Northern Michigan Snaring
[Re: strike2x]
#6737987
01/20/20 10:38 PM
01/20/20 10:38 PM
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Iowa
~ADC~
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Iowa
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Unless there is more to the regulations than S2X posted, here's what I would use in MI.
44" of 1x19 1/16" cable for the LOADED loop end. micro lock with a 285 BAD J hook, mini deer stop set exactly at the 4.25" mark, a real 1/16"x9ga metal wammy, inline #6 barrel swivel, 3' of 7x19 3/32 cable with a #9 ga end swivel. I'd use a 5' piece of 1/2" rebar with a 24" piece of #9 annealed wire wrapped and welded to the top (leaving the tag end stick out to keep the swivel from sliding off the top) driven 30" into the ground for my anchor and support. I'd drive that pole in beside some weeds or something to blend it in 18-20" off the side of the trail and reach my #9 support out to the edge on the trail with the 12" CR loop hanging 12" off the surface, centered in the trail. I'd come in from the side and not get any closer to the trail than I had to. That is all of the regulations. All on one page. The only one you missed is a relaxing lock. Can't use micros. I was using 10 " loop 6 to 8" of trail. I am setting my baits this weekend. I may try a few bigger loops higher. I looked and can not see where it says micros are non-relaxing locks. I know from experience that they are relaxing locks whether or not they say it anywhere. EDIT: However Blackdog Lopro Snare Locks are listed as relaxing at Dakota line and they would be just the same IMO if I couldn't use Micro Locks.
Last edited by ~ADC~; 01/20/20 10:51 PM. Reason: added info
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Re: Northern Michigan Snaring
[Re: Mousey Trapper]
#6738022
01/20/20 11:04 PM
01/20/20 11:04 PM
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Joined: Jun 2010
Iowa
~ADC~
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Iowa
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Rule of thumb for snaring, the size of your loop is the same as it's height of the ground, but not for beavers. This is pretty close and a good starting point. You can tweek it a little as needed. For example I use a 6-7" loop for coons, but run them up to 9" high if I'm targeting just the biggest coons down the trail. I'l also adjust my loop height and size on coyotes if I think deer are likely to be using the trail or if I think there's a good chance at a bobcat in the same trail. But like Mousey said that's a good rule of thumb to get you started.
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Re: Northern Michigan Snaring
[Re: UPoldman]
#6738042
01/20/20 11:15 PM
01/20/20 11:15 PM
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Joined: Jan 2015
Houghton Lake, MI
strike2x
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Houghton Lake, MI
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My mistake, I was thinking micro locks were a cam lock system. They may be legal. It used to read washer style locks. They obviously changed wording a bit this year. Even with the download in my phone I still miss some stuff.
Wish I had more time to trap....
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Re: Northern Michigan Snaring
[Re: UPoldman]
#6738171
01/21/20 05:39 AM
01/21/20 05:39 AM
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Joined: Jan 2016
WI - Wisconsin
AJE
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WI - Wisconsin
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Snaring Coyotes in Michigan for the first time. Have four large bait sites going with about three dozen snares set at trails that Coyotes have used coming to the bait. What kind of bait draws the most predator attention...a deer, beaver?
Last edited by AJE; 01/21/20 05:40 AM.
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Re: Northern Michigan Snaring
[Re: AJE]
#6741253
01/23/20 02:42 PM
01/23/20 02:42 PM
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Joined: Dec 2014
Michigan Otsego county
UPoldman
OP
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Michigan Otsego county
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Trying to send photos but I can not figure out how to get my photos on to the thread. If anyone can explain to an old man how to do this I will post my pictures.
Last edited by UPoldman; 01/23/20 07:02 PM.
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