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"successfully de-escalated." #6738803
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Virginia Governor gets all the credit.

lol


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Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6738806
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Never waste a good crisis. Politics 101


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Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6738809
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Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6738819
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What escalation? His was the only escalation.

Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6738876
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That’s how they see it.

While the rally had a tremendous impact on the people attending it had very little on law makers.


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Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6738940
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6 or 7 years ago, about 2,000 of us showed up in Trenton NJ when a bunch of new gun control regulations were being proposed. Dozens of us spoke at the committee hearing against the bills. They had flown the Newtown families in and had special seating for them at the hearing. The pro-2A speakers outnumbered the anti-constitution speakers 20 to 1. We filled two huge meeting rooms and had another 1,500 gun owners standing outside in the cold all day.

When the day was over, the committee voted for every single anti-gun bill.

Hobbie Trapper is right, it will have no impact on lawmakers. Remember, Bloomberg spent $2.5 million to buy their anti-gun votes. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter how many showed up. It matters who will pay the most to buy votes.


-Ryan
Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6738958
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He needs to be recalled before he pushes laws through that makes it impossible to recall the clown.


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I went to the rally because it was the best I could do at this point. IF it has any affect that affect will be masked with weasel words. By that I mean that perhaps a Dem lawmaker will not support some aspect of one of the proposals and give the reason to be some point other than having listened to his constituents. If that is all I can get then my time was well spent.

Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6738974
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That clown is as good as out of office. I guarantee it. No way he is getting reelected unless he stuffs the ballot box.


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Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: maintenanceguy] #6738990
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Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
6 or 7 years ago, about 2,000 of us showed up in Trenton NJ when a bunch of new gun control regulations were being proposed. Dozens of us spoke at the committee hearing against the bills. They had flown the Newtown families in and had special seating for them at the hearing. The pro-2A speakers outnumbered the anti-constitution speakers 20 to 1. We filled two huge meeting rooms and had another 1,500 gun owners standing outside in the cold all day.

When the day was over, the committee voted for every single anti-gun bill.

Hobbie Trapper is right, it will have no impact on lawmakers. Remember, Bloomberg spent $2.5 million to buy their anti-gun votes. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter how many showed up. It matters who will pay the most to buy votes.


I have to agree to a point, but it is much harder to buy Vote when it comes to a State or National election. When an issue is in committee or on the floor is much easier to get votes. Remember money talk and (****) walks. The issues of gun control and the 2nd amendment is not going to go away. Michael Bloomberg is going to see that it doesn't

*Only one thing that politicians are afraid of, is your Vote. *

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Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6738994
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Virginia Governor gets all the credit.

lol

Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Virginia Governor gets all the credit.

lol



and grykl was the first and only one on here that gave him credit for doing so



Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6738999
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I’m sorry I missed that. lol


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Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6739002
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You can't read can you, taser? Or is you tryna be accepted by the club? wink

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Taser I remember that. Grackle thought the state of emergency was a good move on the governor's part. You know a person exercising their 2nd amendment right is a dangerous thing.

Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6739013
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referring to the redneck American thread where you stated that a good job was done by calling a state of emergency thus keeping gun activists in check.....



Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6739018
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Originally Posted by taser
referring to the redneck American thread where you stated that a good job was done by calling a state of emergency thus keeping gun activists in check.....


Don't forget he espoused that opinion here too.

Originally Posted by gryhkl
Don't let her do your thinkin' for ya fin.

If something happened at this event, given the way things went down in Charlotsville, the law suit against the city by anyone hurt today would be a huge liability.

Apparently things went well. No one was hurt, no shots fired, nobody ran over their fellow American. smile

Whatever was done in preparation for the demonstration seemed to be well thought out.....Not that that will keep some from doing all they can to find fault with it. crazy



https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6737916/1

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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by taser
referring to the redneck American thread where you stated that a good job was done by calling a state of emergency thus keeping gun activists in check.....


Don't forget he espoused that opinion here too.

Originally Posted by gryhkl
Don't let her do your thinkin' for ya fin.

If something happened at this event, given the way things went down in Charlotsville, the law suit against the city by anyone hurt today would be a huge liability.

Apparently things went well. No one was hurt, no shots fired, nobody ran over their fellow American. smile

Whatever was done in preparation for the demonstration seemed to be well thought out.....Not that that will keep some from doing all they can to find fault with it. crazy



https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6737916/1

Keith

Busted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: ] #6739054
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That's not what taser said. He said I gave credit to the gov for de-escalating things.
Nothing ever escalated.
Some of you are dishonest to a point that makes you read things that are not there
What I said:
Whatever was done in preparation for the demonstration seemed to be well thought out.....Not that that will keep some from doing all they can to find fault with it.
And I stand by that.

I also said that, given threats that were made by various groups, that to not handle things with an abundance of caution would have been foolish.
IT could very well be that the measures taken prevented some counter demonstrators from causing trouble at the rally.

tasor and kieth have proven themselves to be the one who are liars. They go out of their way to do it by lying about what others say or purposely twisting the context of posts. And it is simply because they are afraid those who tell them what to think may be wrong at times.

Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6739060
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Looks like my truthful have some working over time to find a way to twist things laugh Have at it boys.

Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6739071
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Hows it feel? You been doin that to Trump for about 3 years now.

Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6739074
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you gave credit to the putting in place of a "state of emergency" for a group rallying and stated that by doing so violence was prevented...………


by your statement "you gave credit"



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Nah, I just ain't no trump worshiper, so I call him out on some of his foolish tweets and needless lying about things that hurt his ego.

Nothing I have said is a lie. Trying to twist the obvious meaning of somebodies post is dishonest and is something an honest person would not do, even if he wishes to defend one of his misguided beliefs.

Re: "successfully de-escalated." [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6739077
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If you guys take a few moments to read the entire thread I posted the link too, you will see many more examples of grhkyl lying. Most of the times gryhkl gets caught and there has been a lot, he does his best to get the thread axed. I am sure you can all remember many more examples anyways of his mistruths.

Keith

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I never try to get a post axed. I do not believe that is true of some.

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It speaks volumes how gryhkl continues to lie after being irrefutably outed as a liar over and over. Please all remember that.

Keith

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There are many dozens of instances of gryhkl name calling and flaming as all can see.

Keith

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Going to the Rally all helps. Doing nothing gets you no wear except in Washington DC. The do nothings in DC are good at talking and doing nothing. Thank you for going to the gun Ralley.

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Taser didn’t say you lied, just that you gave him. By the proxy of the synonym, that’s exactly what you did.


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I for one am sick of listening to Shiff for brains rattle on without really saying anything


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Nah, I just don't worship the guy. But the thread is supposed to be about imaginary escalation/ deescalation.

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You have to love the way the ones that don’t follow the Constitution can’t stop reminding us how important it is when it fits their agenda.


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Originally Posted by KeithC
It speaks volumes how gryhkl continues to lie after being irrefutably outed as a liar over and over. Please all remember that.

Keith

taking a page from your heroes book, keith. Keep telling a lie over and over again 'til at least you and you group thinkers believe it.

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I posted a rather large amount of evidence to your lack of truthfulness. Go ahead and refute it if you possibly can.

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If you knew how to read with an unbiased eye you would understand that the lies only exist in yours and your group's minds. It doesn't matter if you like what the facts are, calling them lies make you the dishonest one.

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grackle, you ain't fooling anybody. we all know your game.


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Like a duck outta water.

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Originally Posted by KeithC
There are many dozens of instances of gryhkl name calling and flaming as all can see.

Keith

Nothing in this is a lie.

Originally Posted by gryhkl
Don't let her do your thinkin' for ya fin.

If something happened at this event, given the way things went down in Charlotsville, the law suit against the city by anyone hurt today would be a huge liability.

Apparently things went well. No one was hurt, no shots fired, nobody ran over their fellow American. smile

Whatever was done in preparation for the demonstration seemed to be well thought out.....Not that that will keep some from doing all they can to find fault with it. crazy

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I posted this in another group......


What im afraid of is all these money/power hungry government types wont even bat an eye at all those people that showed up. Did it affect them in any way at all? Probably not. See if the Boston Tea Party had been a bunch of people standing in a corralled fence for hours, we wouldnt of ever heard of it. If the civil war had been a bunch of people standing around with signs, we wouldnt of ever heard of it. If Hitler (not that i agree with him at all) had protested his thoughts with his words and signs, we wouldnt know his name. He took action, and because of those actions, everyone will know his name for eternity.

I truly doubt all those government folks will be like "Oh look at all the people that showed up in support of their Constitution, we change our minds, they can keep their guns now".

What changes minds is force. We need a civil war, we need to take back the country, we need to defend it with our lives. We need a freaking zombie apocalypse, anything to get rid of the government. Just think we could live life the way it was intended...Wake up, survive, breed, survive...

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The Second Amendment to the US Constitution states,

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

No where in the Second Amendment does it state that the government of the US has the right to disarm the law abiding populace when they peacefully assemble to protest a legitimate grievance, because they are scared of them.

The Virginia State Motto and Seal is "Sic Semper Tyrannis", Thus Always to Tyrants for good reasons.

Keith

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You need to destroy the Governors career to make a point or it’s all for nothing. Better to do it once then dozens of times.

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