Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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Never waste a good crisis. Politics 101
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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6 or 7 years ago, about 2,000 of us showed up in Trenton NJ when a bunch of new gun control regulations were being proposed. Dozens of us spoke at the committee hearing against the bills. They had flown the Newtown families in and had special seating for them at the hearing. The pro-2A speakers outnumbered the anti-constitution speakers 20 to 1. We filled two huge meeting rooms and had another 1,500 gun owners standing outside in the cold all day.
When the day was over, the committee voted for every single anti-gun bill.
Hobbie Trapper is right, it will have no impact on lawmakers. Remember, Bloomberg spent $2.5 million to buy their anti-gun votes. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter how many showed up. It matters who will pay the most to buy votes.
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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He needs to be recalled before he pushes laws through that makes it impossible to recall the clown.
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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That clown is as good as out of office. I guarantee it. No way he is getting reelected unless he stuffs the ballot box.
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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6 or 7 years ago, about 2,000 of us showed up in Trenton NJ when a bunch of new gun control regulations were being proposed. Dozens of us spoke at the committee hearing against the bills. They had flown the Newtown families in and had special seating for them at the hearing. The pro-2A speakers outnumbered the anti-constitution speakers 20 to 1. We filled two huge meeting rooms and had another 1,500 gun owners standing outside in the cold all day.
When the day was over, the committee voted for every single anti-gun bill.
Hobbie Trapper is right, it will have no impact on lawmakers. Remember, Bloomberg spent $2.5 million to buy their anti-gun votes. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter how many showed up. It matters who will pay the most to buy votes. I have to agree to a point, but it is much harder to buy Vote when it comes to a State or National election. When an issue is in committee or on the floor is much easier to get votes. Remember money talk and (****) walks. The issues of gun control and the 2nd amendment is not going to go away. Michael Bloomberg is going to see that it doesn't *Only one thing that politicians are afraid of, is your Vote. *
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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Virginia Governor gets all the credit.
lol Virginia Governor gets all the credit.
lol and grykl was the first and only one on here that gave him credit for doing so
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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Taser I remember that. Grackle thought the state of emergency was a good move on the governor's part. You know a person exercising their 2nd amendment right is a dangerous thing.
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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referring to the redneck American thread where you stated that a good job was done by calling a state of emergency thus keeping gun activists in check.....
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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referring to the redneck American thread where you stated that a good job was done by calling a state of emergency thus keeping gun activists in check..... Don't forget he espoused that opinion here too. Don't let her do your thinkin' for ya fin. If something happened at this event, given the way things went down in Charlotsville, the law suit against the city by anyone hurt today would be a huge liability. Apparently things went well. No one was hurt, no shots fired, nobody ran over their fellow American. Whatever was done in preparation for the demonstration seemed to be well thought out.....Not that that will keep some from doing all they can to find fault with it. https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6737916/1Keith
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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referring to the redneck American thread where you stated that a good job was done by calling a state of emergency thus keeping gun activists in check..... Don't forget he espoused that opinion here too. Don't let her do your thinkin' for ya fin. If something happened at this event, given the way things went down in Charlotsville, the law suit against the city by anyone hurt today would be a huge liability. Apparently things went well. No one was hurt, no shots fired, nobody ran over their fellow American. Whatever was done in preparation for the demonstration seemed to be well thought out.....Not that that will keep some from doing all they can to find fault with it. https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6737916/1Keith Busted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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you gave credit to the putting in place of a "state of emergency" for a group rallying and stated that by doing so violence was prevented...………
by your statement "you gave credit"
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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I for one am sick of listening to Shiff for brains rattle on without really saying anything
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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You have to love the way the ones that don’t follow the Constitution can’t stop reminding us how important it is when it fits their agenda.
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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It speaks volumes how gryhkl continues to lie after being irrefutably outed as a liar over and over. Please all remember that.
Keith taking a page from your heroes book, keith. Keep telling a lie over and over again 'til at least you and you group thinkers believe it.
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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grackle, you ain't fooling anybody. we all know your game.
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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There are many dozens of instances of gryhkl name calling and flaming as all can see.
Keith Nothing in this is a lie. Originally Posted by gryhkl Don't let her do your thinkin' for ya fin. If something happened at this event, given the way things went down in Charlotsville, the law suit against the city by anyone hurt today would be a huge liability. Apparently things went well. No one was hurt, no shots fired, nobody ran over their fellow American. smile Whatever was done in preparation for the demonstration seemed to be well thought out.....Not that that will keep some from doing all they can to find fault with it. crazy
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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I posted this in another group......
What im afraid of is all these money/power hungry government types wont even bat an eye at all those people that showed up. Did it affect them in any way at all? Probably not. See if the Boston Tea Party had been a bunch of people standing in a corralled fence for hours, we wouldnt of ever heard of it. If the civil war had been a bunch of people standing around with signs, we wouldnt of ever heard of it. If Hitler (not that i agree with him at all) had protested his thoughts with his words and signs, we wouldnt know his name. He took action, and because of those actions, everyone will know his name for eternity.
I truly doubt all those government folks will be like "Oh look at all the people that showed up in support of their Constitution, we change our minds, they can keep their guns now".
What changes minds is force. We need a civil war, we need to take back the country, we need to defend it with our lives. We need a freaking zombie apocalypse, anything to get rid of the government. Just think we could live life the way it was intended...Wake up, survive, breed, survive...
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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The Second Amendment to the US Constitution states,
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
No where in the Second Amendment does it state that the government of the US has the right to disarm the law abiding populace when they peacefully assemble to protest a legitimate grievance, because they are scared of them.
The Virginia State Motto and Seal is "Sic Semper Tyrannis", Thus Always to Tyrants for good reasons.
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Re: "successfully de-escalated."
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You need to destroy the Governors career to make a point or it’s all for nothing. Better to do it once then dozens of times.
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