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Re: Mountain Journal [Re: Bushman] #6761246
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I had to leave a trailer in a bog hole in Aug 2018. The trail is a rough one and not easily accessible. I was able to finally get it home.

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Step one - get it to river edge

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Step two - hook it up to sled

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Step three - haul it the 16 miles home.

Re: Mountain Journal [Re: Bushman] #6761247
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411s Dad caught at least 100 lynx to your one.

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Re: Mountain Journal [Re: Bushman] #6761248
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I'm really liking my new ramp on my upriver cabin site. I've had to winch a few loads up this bank previously


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Cabin site looked stunning yesterday

Re: Mountain Journal [Re: Bushman] #6761249
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It's been one of the best year's ever for moose sign. this cow and calf were quite content


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It's amazing how serene lynx are when in a foothold trap


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I had a foothold in front of this tree and caught a lynx. A wolverine left three paws and the tail only.

Re: Mountain Journal [Re: Bushman] #6761250
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Good to see you NWT boys are sticking together Ryan.

Re: Mountain Journal [Re: Bushman] #6761252
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Just stating facts. You were one of us at one point werenít you?


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Re: Mountain Journal [Re: Bushman] #6761268
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I was just giving youba comment Bushman there is no argument. It rightnin FHA fur handeling for profit magazine. If you would rather do it your way thats fine. If you can take the loss. Its not a huge difference any ways.
Just so you know my Dad was trapping in the Thelon in the 1940s so if you were trapping when he was in diapers your pushing White17 for age.
But i have nothing but respect for you all the tough projects you undetake and adventures you have. Love your jet boat stories.
Just kidding on the pushing White17 age thing. White17 was discovering Oregon when our Grandfathers were in diapers.

Re: Mountain Journal [Re: Bushman] #6763799
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411- Donít forget weíre related through John Bouvier! I was born in 1885. W17 is my grandson and I raised him well

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Re: Mountain Journal [Re: Bushman] #6764023
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Beautiful country you work in Brian. Lynx are peaking here this year I think. Most of the early cats were pretty fat but the last run they were getting hungry. Catching them in marten sets now. Would like to have seen a broadside picture of that bear by you cabin, he looked like a good mature boar! Really enjoy your journal, keep it going!


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Re: Mountain Journal [Re: Bushman] #6764295
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Now now, Brian, don't be thinking your so knowledgeable you can't still improve. I was doing well on lynx 15 years ago when someone, you, mentioned a different loop size and height for lynx. Improved my lynx catch and decreased body catches.
I would say that in general, selling fur on commercial market is all about length. You can stretch TOO long, but you can also stretch too short. If a trappers boards are too wide, he's going to lose a few bucks here and there. I assume your boards are according to market specs?
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Re: Mountain Journal [Re: martentrapper] #6764771
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
Now now, Brian, don't be thinking your so knowledgeable you can't still improve. I was doing well on lynx 15 years ago when someone, you, mentioned a different loop size and height for lynx. Improved my lynx catch and decreased body catches.
I would say that in general, selling fur on commercial market is all about length. You can stretch TOO long, but you can also stretch too short. If a trappers boards are too wide, he's going to lose a few bucks here and there. I assume your boards are according to market specs?
mt


Brians post on lynx snare size and height really helped increase my catch too. I miss very few now, and every time I catch one in a snare, I think of Brian.


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Re: Mountain Journal [Re: yukon254] #6764944
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Originally Posted by yukon254
Beautiful country you work in Brian. Lynx are peaking here this year I think. Most of the early cats were pretty fat but the last run they were getting hungry. Catching them in marten sets now. Would like to have seen a broadside picture of that bear by you cabin, he looked like a good mature boar! Really enjoy your journal, keep it going!


By observation I think lynx fat or thinness is a function of there diet.If they are feeding on carrion, mice and the occasional squirrels the lynx will be fat. Later in the year when the snow is deeper and they are more dependent on snowshoe hare they will be thinner as they will expend more energy to catch leaner food. Parasite load will also have an effect.

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Re: Mountain Journal [Re: muskrat411] #6765150
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Originally Posted by muskrat411
Originally Posted by yukon254
Beautiful country you work in Brian. Lynx are peaking here this year I think. Most of the early cats were pretty fat but the last run they were getting hungry. Catching them in marten sets now. Would like to have seen a broadside picture of that bear by you cabin, he looked like a good mature boar! Really enjoy your journal, keep it going!


By observation I think lynx fat or thinness is a function of there diet.If they are feeding on carrion, mice and the occasional squirrels the lynx will be fat. Later in the year when the snow is deeper and they are more dependent on snowshoe hare they will be thinner as they will expend more energy to catch leaner food. Parasite load will also have an effect.


Exactly the opposite of what I've noticed. On every trapline that I have trapped lynx have preferred hares over any other food source. When there are lots of hares, the lynx population goes up and they are in better condition. Once the hare population starts to decline lynx move out or die and the ones I do catch are thinner. If an area doesn't have hares down this way, you wont have many lynx.


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Re: Mountain Journal [Re: Bushman] #6770208
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Iím always open to learn, one of the reasons I come on here. But BS is BS. Kind of like lynx not getting fat on rabbits. Haha the great lynx stretcher debate of 2020. Those lynx were stretched on same stretchers used at the 2019 Alberta rendezvous by the pros doing the lynx demo. They are NAFA specs. I will be sure to let them know they're not up to snuff. And this is the last I speak on the subject. I'm not here to debate

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Re: Mountain Journal [Re: Bushman] #6770292
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Originally Posted by Bushman
Iím always open to learn, one of the reasons I come on here. But BS is BS. Kind of like lynx not getting fat on rabbits. Haha the great lynx stretcher debate of 2020. Those lynx were stretched on same stretchers used at the 2019 Alberta rendezvous by the pros doing the lynx demo. They are NAFA specs. I will be sure to let them know they're not up to snuff. And this is the last I speak on the subject. I'm not here to debate


Maybe thatís why NAFA shut down? Just kidding Brian. Youíre still my friend. better come see the delta someday with your jet boat. Save gas and drift from providence. Start the engine for the return trip.

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Re: Mountain Journal [Re: Bushman] #6771483
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Sometimes you start something and before you start you go onto it with certain assumptions. Then there is enough evidence on first inspection that supports that assumption that you find no need to investigate further. It obvious that lynx eat a lot of rabbit. The other prey and cation they are feeding on sometimes not so obvious. But it is common knowledge that rabbits have little or no fat. Therefore it only makes sense that fat lynx are getting food from sources in addition to rabbits.

In the great lynx forming board debate you are correct that it is not a debate. There is only one auction and they prefer lynx to be uniform longer rather than wider. The old Hudson Bay Auction may have had more lax standards. But replacing you forming boards to meat the FHA guidelines will cost more than you would earn on the improved prices.

Re: Mountain Journal [Re: muskrat411] #6771528
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Originally Posted by muskrat411
But it is common knowledge that rabbits have little or no fat. Therefore it only makes sense that fat lynx are getting food from sources in addition to rabbits.



Not sure how lynx compare to humans, but excess protein is stored as fat in humans. Even lean protein, as well as sugar, carbs, whatever, it is stored as fat. Hares are lean protein, but may be stored as fat in a lynx if they are eaten in excess.

Re: Mountain Journal [Re: Bushman] #6771971
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That's some good science there Smalltime. I can see that being the case. I still think fat lynx have an alternate source of nurishment, But your premis is totally reasonable aswell.

Re: Mountain Journal [Re: Bushman] #6771977
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Hey Bushman throw me a bone. Have you never seen lynx catching mice from wolverine boxes?

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