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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774894
02/18/20 12:44 PM
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Look up tree stabilizer rods. I think that is what you are looking for. I can't answer the care or other questions but I have looked at fiberglass as well.


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774897
02/18/20 12:47 PM
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If I had to jump thru all those hoops, he would be paying plenty per beaver.

Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774904
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This Is how I trapped beaver when I first started out. We didn't have BGs at the time so It was foot holds only.

We staked out In deep water with a steel fence post. We used 10' of chain between the trap and the stake. Then we attached a rail road tie plate or a sash weight as close to the trap as possible. Those weights weighed about 5 Lbs to 10 lbs each. The beaver would be caught and head for the deeper water but with the trap and the weight hanging On It's foot It soon tired out and drowned. Most of the time they made at least 2 turns around the stake before wearing down.
We tried to target a front foot since you can drown a beaver In 2' of water. If you have deeper water then I would try and target a hind foot. A beaver will tire rather quickly with this set up.
We never even considered a drowning rod or cable slides. If you go this route just leave all the gear behind and then you won't have to keep hauling It back and forth.


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774907
02/18/20 01:01 PM
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He's looking for help locating
Fiberglass rods


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774908
02/18/20 01:04 PM
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No need for all that stuff.
When I read the initial post I assumed he was looking for a simple drowning method.


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774910
02/18/20 01:04 PM
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I cannot find someone selling the kit shown here ( with) the hex key stops

I went to Mike Kelly's site and it says sold out.

Heres his pictures https://www.wildrivertraps.com/

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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: trapNH] #6774912
02/18/20 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by trapNH
If I had to jump thru all those hoops, he would be paying plenty per beaver.

Whole different ball game in this state. There is some VERY well off people here. I had a gig for a gentleman who owned at least 6 houses scattered across the world. Bond trader/hedge fund manager or something like that.
He had contacted me about some ADC work , lots of hurdles and hoops to jump through , had to be available 24/7 for this client.

He paid me $2200 to remove 4 raccoons , 1 possum. He was very happy and paid promptly. Job took 5 days.

Hope he calls again. I love jumping through those types of hoops.


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774914
02/18/20 01:09 PM
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Hiding trapping activity from people who don't understand it is the reason it's being banned by more states and municipalities every year. Take the time to educate people out in the open, or tell them to find another trapper willing to operate in the shadows and allow the folks that NEED trapping to pretend it doesn't exist, and let their kids continue to be ignorant.

Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774915
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You can make drowning rods out of 1/4" rod. You need to use a loop on each end with a cable stake to hold both ends solid. Not as easy to use but a lot lighter than 1/2" rebar.

Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774925
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They sell the 10' 3/8 " fiberglass rods.


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Cragar] #6775247
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So to elaborate alittle more part of the problem is he had another trapper on there before me who apparently morals and ethics were not a top priority. He used chains, cables or wire and didn't properly weight them down and his family had to bear witness while they ate lunch to a very mad beaver that had pulled his weight up on shore and tangled in the wire when the guy showed up be proceeded to bludgeon the beaver to death with an axe. While I'm going to guess this family watched. On numerous occasions they caught said trapper using their property as his own to hunt fish trap and bring friends along. So I can understand why he is very weary on letting people in so if it means playing his game with his ball on his field to try and restore faith in trappers or the locals in general I feel it is my duty to take the beating. I will say that this gentleman has given me more and more every year this year is the second year he's allowed me to hunt his property. Which he offered to me I did not ask for that right. The first year working for him he accompanied me on every check and the setting and removal of traps and he kept detailed records of my doings. For those of you who answered my question thank you. But please dont pass judgement on a land owner that one of our own took advantage of.


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6775251
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Originally Posted by Swamp Yankee
So to elaborate alittle more part of the problem is he had another trapper on there before me who apparently morals and ethics were not a top priority. He used chains, cables or wire and didn't properly weight them down and his family had to bear witness while they ate lunch to a very mad beaver that had pulled his weight up on shore and tangled in the wire when the guy showed up be proceeded to bludgeon the beaver to death with an axe. While I'm going to guess this family watched. On numerous occasions they caught said trapper using their property as his own to hunt fish trap and bring friends along. So I can understand why he is very weary on letting people in so if it means playing his game with his ball on his field to try and restore faith in trappers or the locals in general I feel it is my duty to take the beating. I will say that this gentleman has given me more and more every year this year is the second year he's allowed me to hunt his property. Which he offered to me I did not ask for that right. The first year working for him he accompanied me on every check and the setting and removal of traps and he kept detailed records of my doings. For those of you who answered my question thank you. But please dont pass judgement on a land owner that one of our own took advantage of.

Great post. I enjoy when landowners/managers get involved as well. I even enjoy sleeping in a little when they want check my sets on their property. I enjoy the questions through text or phone calls. I enjoy the pics they share showing me where they see critters. I enjoy them getting involved with it all. If they eventually start trapping themselves and I don’t get to trap their property, then that’s fine as well. I talked to the “kid” checking my traps in the mornings and told him if he ever has something else going on that I can check them. His response...Heck Mr. Mark, don’t take my anticipation and excitement away from me, I look forward to checking traps every morning!

Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6775271
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I have had to trap on properties with regulations but nothing that tight


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