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Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: .204] #6778150
02/21/20 11:36 AM
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I refused to Vote for Romney or McCain. Said there wasnt ten cents difference in them and B.O. Took a lot of flack for saying it.
Turns out I was right.

I will most likely vote Trump again but don't be fooled into thinking I trust him to defend my civil rights. Again, I think it is my neighbors, willing to stand up and resist , that are responsible for the rights we enjoy.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: Trapper7] #6778323
02/21/20 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
The bottom line is neither Trump nor Barr will ever be as anti-gun as any of the six democrats running for president. If you think otherwise, you are spinning your wheels.

That's absolutely true, but that doesn't make them gun friendly by default, either. A politician can support a whole lot of gun control and still not be as anti-gun as the average democrat. Don't be fooled into thinking that just because someone is a republican or isn't as anti-gun as a democrat that they are actually pro-gun.

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Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: .204] #6778428
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I don't think anyone has the illusion an elected official won't bend with enough pressure. It's the ones going in with the mindset to restrict our rights that really, really don't need a vote.

Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: loosegoose] #6778454
02/21/20 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by Trapper7
The bottom line is neither Trump nor Barr will ever be as anti-gun as any of the six democrats running for president. If you think otherwise, you are spinning your wheels.

That's absolutely true, but that doesn't make them gun friendly by default, either. A politician can support a whole lot of gun control and still not be as anti-gun as the average democrat. Don't be fooled into thinking that just because someone is a republican or isn't as anti-gun as a democrat that they are actually pro-gun.


I guess it's a matter of what you feel qualifies as pro-gun. Not all, but most democrats would support a total ban on guns if possible. Not all, but most republicans would not support a total ban on guns.

IMO, I conclude that most democrats are anti-gun. Most republicans are pro-gun. Republicans aren't going to take your guns away. Democrats aren't either, but they would if they could.


The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: danny clifton] #6778477
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
graydog, do you think the president would answer that question?

I got an opinion polll the other day from the republican party. i was reading through it and some of my opinions were not one of the answers. At the end of it the last question was how much money was I going to send them. So my question of why were they spending who knew how much on the poll and postage was answered.


I think it would be read by a staffer and if enough are received then he might hear the concerns about Barr. Discussing topics on here is great but not.nearly enough. Elected representatives need to know what the people think and they don't know if we don't tell them


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Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: .204] #6778486
02/21/20 03:59 PM
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Here some things about Barr some might like to know about
https://www.facebook.com/AmericansAg...4392669102288/
Did you know?

William Barr was the attorney general that approved the Siege on Waco first!
Janet Reno was not the Attorney General until March 12th, 14 days into the siege of Mount Carmel Church at Waco.

William Barr was attorney general under the Bush Administration for 2 years.

Barr first sent agents to Ruby Ridge August 21st 1992, and gave orders to take Randy Weaver dead or alive.
5 months later Barr was still attorney general on Feb. 28, 1993 and again authorized the attack on the Mount Carmel Church in Waco, but because of his involvement and him giving legal advice to Lon Tomohisa Horiuchi, the FBI agent that shot and killed Vicki Weaver, he left office and President Clinton appointed Janet Reno as the new attorney general March 12th, 14 days into the standoff of Waco.

William Barr then for the next few years become one of the main attorneys defending the actions of agent Lon Horiuchi who shot Vicki Weaver, condoning his and the actions of the agents that were responsible for the deaths of over 80 men, women and children of the Mount Carmel Church in Waco Texas.
February 14, 2019
William Barr was just re-appointed as the new attorney general by president Trump.
President Trump also agreed to appoint William Barr's son-in-law , Tyler McGaughey, as his new presidential adviser. Mcgaughey will be leaving his job in the Justice Department.
President Trump appointed William Barr's oldest daughter to a undisclosed position in the White House.

Not only has William Barr been a practicing attorney for many years he also worked for the CIA and NASA, spying on Americans unconstitutionally, and supported the Patriot Act, supported indefinite detention, even working for Verizon, and worked hard to condone the the actions of ATF and FBI agents during Ruby Ridge and Waco, while serving as attorney general during Ruby Ridge and the first 14 days of the Waco seige, then going on to be one of the defense lawyers for the ATF agents during the government's following prosecution and investigation.

"Holding a sniper liable would “severely undermine, if not cripple, the ability of future attorneys general to rely on such specialized units in moments of crisis such as hostage taking and terrorist acts.”

~ William Barr ~



https://www.theamericanconservative....g-fbi-snipers/

https://gunowners.org/bill-barr-need...in-ruby-ridge/
https://247sports.com/college/auburn...ge--140402358/


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Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: .204] #6778943
02/21/20 10:37 PM
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Polls are a good thing you should answer them when you get a chance especially ones that are put out. By the politicians themselves . they are reaching out to hear the voices of their constituants . If your answer is not a choice write it in . The only time your voice can be heard louder is when you vote with a vote . there is no way to explaine your reasons unless there is an exit pollster there .
I used to hate them myself but then i got to thinking them politicians watch the polls much the way trappers and farmers check the markets . So ive started answering them when i get a chance .
once in a while they may listen to the angry letters or emails or protest ,how often do you do what sombody angrily yells at you . A poll expresses it self in raw statistics . They are as coruptible as any human endeavour but if you dont answer and express your views , let your voice be part of the statistics then all they get to hear are the most vocal and outspoken views

Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: .204] #6778949
02/21/20 10:41 PM
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Got my concerns about Barr, dont want to say anymore so my post dosen't get deleted..... laugh


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