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Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic #6789333
03/01/20 11:42 PM
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History abounds with powerful medicinal plants that indigenous peoples have used in great success .

Who here hasn't heard and appreciate the mountain men trappers of early times , and their intimate knowledge of flora and fauna around them, gathered and used for many health issues ?

Tis a mighty thing to be able to help yourself this way , to have good working knowledge to keep as decent in health, as possible.

Been some time since I've made this tonic, however, lately, present day conditions have motivated me to spend a bit of time to make a batch again , and I thought the Tman Tribe would find it possibly interesting.

Called Master Tonic, Super Tonic, the Plague Tonic, it is an extremely powerful mixture of herbs , steeped in Apple Cider Vinegar . It has been made in households all over the world , for many years, though I have not been able to find a source of origin ...just seems to be one of those age old things that gets handed down and shared over time.

I first learned about this concoction from a good friend some decades ago . I am forever grateful to her, being my first introduction to the world of medicinal powerful herbs , and what they do. There are some varied ways of making this, but always with the base ingredients and ACV to steep it in, consistent in them all.

This has been road tested to work for many things, such as the common cold, pathogens ,bad ones, parasites, any viruses that circulate in season, and is a great all around immune system builder , with a plethora of health benefits to the whole body in many other ways.

This is not to be underestimated .

The great thing about this, is that it can be used in tandem with prescription meds , working , as herbs do , in amicable union . There is a place for both worlds , working together for the cause.

I think of our very own Patrice beating the heck out of Lyme's , using a lengthy regime of prescription meds along with powerful herb mixes, in rotations and amounts. One used without the other wouldn't have purged that and it's accompanying viruses out of her system.

Granted, it is pungent and very strong, but worth the effort . Taken every day year round, in small maintenance amount , builds the immune system and shores up the body to fight off pathogens as soon as they enter and begin to take hold. Others only take it when flu season begins, continuing through winter , a good way to go. Others will take larger amounts as soon as they begin to feel "off" . This Tonic is effective even if taken late into the midst of full blown flu , bronchitis , strep, etc...still with noticeable results in the duration shortened .

Most here know the properties of the herbs used in this, and combining them in ACV , with it's known advantages , makes for a potent arsenal in building up immune system , and many other plusses in health benefits.

Whether surrounded by sick family members, office mates , out among people in public, or just want to keep your immunity in top shape, preventative use of 1 tablespoon a day is a commonly used amount. If you're already feeling under the weather, 1 tablespoon 3-4 times a day , until feeling back to one's healthy self. Some take a bit more than that- there's room for variance. It can be drank straight up as a "shot" ,add to hot water as a tea, a toned down version . Honey, Agave Nectar, or Stevia can be mixed in, if some sweetness is desired.

This stuff will clear your sinuses and warm you up ! Yes, the ingredients are frightening to those new to the idea, but something happens when it's all steeped in ACV for two weeks to six . Opinions vary on the infusion time , but I've used it after two weeks with great results. Yes it does have heat in swallowing , but not so much that it is intolerable, it "blends" to uniform warmth. I can't take a lot of spicy heat in peppers, mustard, etc in seasonings, but I can do this . I've noticed a strange thing , it tastes strong when I'm feeling well, and you'd think , taking it with a sore throat would really burn on the way down, but it doesn't. It actually feels warm, soothing to the area. I've heard others remark the same observation . Go figure, but that is the case , with me and some others, anyway.

This will stay good , on the shelf , because of the vinegar . Better in a dark place , out of sunlight.

Here's what tools you will need : Glass jar ( no plastic or metal), sized to hold the amount you're making, Blender (optional) can chop by hand too, cutting board , knife, surgical gloves (even two or three pair, a must have to keep the hot off your hands), wrap glasses or regular glasses ( helps shield from fumes and from accidentally from touching your face near your eyes) , ceramic plate to cut the turmeric on...the yellow juice will stain just about anything porous , so I cut it on a ceramic plate instead of my cutting board.

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As you prepare this, try not to bend too close or breathe too deep , you will smell them, though ! Fresh ginger is so refreshing to me...smells clean and sweet ! Horseradish when cut or chopped in blender has a real "kick" -pun intended ! Needless to say, take good care handling those searing hot peppers.
It all will clear the sinuses during preparation , but it won't last long once it is all cut or chopped.
Ingredients :

Equal parts ( whether a couple cups, or a pound of each - which makes two glass gallon jars full , that gets used up over time)

Fresh ginger root, turmeric, horseradish root, garlic, white onion ( or other hot onion) , hot peppers , jalapeño , habanero , as hot as you can find, apple cider vinegar ( unfiltered, with the 'mother')

These will be chopped fairly fine, or chopped in blender. If you use a blender, put in smaller amounts of horseradish , it is a hard root, with some ACV , chop in pulses . The other herbs will chop much easier.

The images below are what I did today :
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Turmeric cut on the plate -this is a time honored herb in poultice application too, for pain, pulled muscles , joint injuries. Just keep it wrapped so it wont stain clothes !
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When cutting horseradish root, I don't peel the outer layer-unless it's real wrinkly or thick...just wash with a brush first. Same with ginger and turmeric. Once the knife is into the top with a rocking motion, just press with your hand along the top of the blade , instead of sawing. It usually slices right down with one push. Turn as needed to cut on the flat side...careful the knife doesn't slip.
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Everything chopped and ready for the blender...some ACV in the bowls with turmeric and horseradish root helps to soften it just a bit as you chop the rest. If chopping by hand, those roots will need to be smaller than they are in the dishes shown . Not tiny- small chunks will suffice .
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Fill the jars in equal amounts , or one, then add the ACV. It needs to cover the herbs and basically fill the jar . I didn't get enough ACV , but the ingredients are still covered. I will get more , and fill to the near top later.
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Now it needs to just set and infuse on a shelf , out of bright light, two weeks , other sources say six...I've had it do fine in two. Stir with a long utensil around once a day. I use wax paper , under the metal lid , to keep the ACV from contacting it. After a few weeks , strain out the herb pieces and you have your tonic in the vinegar solution. It will store at room temp indefinitely. The herbs can be composted, or used in other dishes as seasonings, made into salad dressing, or fed to chooks , or other animals to give them a boost too .

I am rarely sick...and when I do come down with something, immediately using this tonic will knock the bug right out , sooner the better. Of course, sometimes things take hold anyway , or taking the tonic is done late so it takes hold, but the duration, intensity and misery is much suppressed . The key is a strong immune system to begin with , and more ammo to use when something does fly in the breeze our way, or touches our hands.

There are so many really great properties to every one of these herbs and the vinegar , I fear I would really ramble on even more than I have already if I listed them all. Even cancer cell killing properties in some of them.

When you have something time tested , and see it working well in others too, it is natural to be moved to share.

As the Irish say ,sláinte , good health to you .

I believe in plenty of ammo smile

Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789335
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Thanks Sharon. I am a huge fan of natural remedies! I have done my fair share of "Russian Penicillin", so I am going to make a batch of your "Master Tonic" and give it a go. Thank you for your post. Have a good one.

God bless and happy trails, Swampfox

Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789354
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Thanks for posting this Sharon! I’m going to make this one day this week!


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789358
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Sharon, do you ever do anything with elderberry, elderflower, mint or camomile?

Elderberry syrup seems to work very well for me.

Keith

Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789403
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been digging medicinals my whole life,heck,i have even dug,wahed and dried a dry ton of skunk cabbage root.bloodroot,mayapples,trilliums,among just a few

love the post maam.









Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789461
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I do something very similar to that but it is steeped in vodka and mixed with
V-8 juice



Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789467
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Thanks for sharing, Sharon. I much appreciate your thread.


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789491
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Very cool info Mrs. Sharon !! Im gonna give it a go.


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789492
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I have seen ready made tonic for sale. But it's crazy expensive.


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789497
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AWESOME


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789500
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Cool post. That sounds like it would be very hot? How much of it do you drink?


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789505
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Thanks Sharon...where do you obtain the roots?


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789509
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one end of me could not handle that.

tomorrow i'll adventure into our mountains in search of our spring tonic--the wild LEEK,or ramp as they are called.raw leeks,leek sammich,leek dip, ham and leeks,trout n leeks and a couple i'm sure i missed.









Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789536
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That sure sounds like it would burn going down and out. eek Dose sound a lot like a pepper juice Grandma used to make for sore throats. Been to long for me to remember what all was in it, but it would burn the sore right out of your throat. whistle

Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789588
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Hio-Hio-Ipsonyoh


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789593
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Would it work as good if you fried venison in it??

Just kidding Excellent thread folks need to take care of themselves year around not just when the Scat hits the Fan


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789608
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Sounds like a great chicken or pork marinade think I will try some!

Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789706
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Thank you, all...Keith, I haven't worked with elderberry, but have enjoyed products of that from friends -it's very good. I know there's good uses for them, all those wild berries are high in Vit C . They grow all over the west here. Love mint, and it's uses. Perfect for upset stomach , nausea , a tasty treat in sweetened water, after a meal, or other desserts. Have heard Camomile makes a wonderful tea . As does eucalyptus makes a very good tea, or inhalant nebulizer, for lungs and sinuses...as does a few drops of Oxine in nebulized water.Oxine also kills pathogens on contact , is used for water treatment to keep bacteria from forming. Patrice and I have had many great thoughts exchanged about this subject...she uses it for her chooks , in cleaning, and as inhalant for herself when she feels "off".Works for herself, every time.

I don't know as much about this fascinating world as I'd like , but I do know what I have learned already, over the years , and am always learning new things...never ending.

Pcr2, there's a whole bunch of things that are so healing and good out there. So much to learn ! I've heard about ramps for years. They aren't in this area. Someday I'll try some. Dandelion greens are so high in amazing nutrient values, but I can only have so much before my system says enough...they are too strong for me to have all the time. Good stuff, though.

Run, yes it is sold ready made. In making this myself, I have literally a gallon or two for a fraction of the cost of buying it ready made, and much more to last, in longer duration by far. Buying the ingredients and some time to make it is worth every penny, and much less expensive.

One of the best sources of anything I have seen , explained, and ready made, are from Dr Schultz . He makes stuff strong with a punch, since it is sold to everyone, without custom tailoring to an individual's needs, he has mastered a typical dosage that works safely within the perimeters for just about everyone. His explanations in detail , of the totally different realms of typical synthesized , over the counter vitamins, vs quality , real natural supplements , is mind blowing education. Education that AMA in general, unfortunately hasn't taken time to acknowledge in depth, and so lumped the two in their comments all together, with the resulting negative findings...all from mainly studying synthesized vitamins , and of course not seeing the results that natural properly produced supplements attain. These too, gives much aid in keeping the body running in good immunity , balance, in filling the gap of lack in nutrients along with the foods we enjoy. That said, there's a decent and growing amount of AMA doctors who bow in respect to these things, in this country, in their personal findings and experiences . They see it, but remain cautious and for the most part silent, for obvious reasons related to red tape, in bureaucratic bandwidth. That's a whole 'nother subject...

Angela, it is strong ! But after it has sat infused for a few weeks, it blends to a more mellow taste-though still eye opening smile Some people don't like it- for most, it isn't a matter of liking it- it's a matter of keeping a strong immune system, and not becoming direly ill , or lessening the symptoms if already fighting mid term illness. As a maintenance , it doesn't take much- a tablespoon every day or two is all...that isn't very much, and can be swallowed fast with a chaser liquid, if needed. You do get used to the taste, and it isn't that bad after a while. I mentioned earlier, that strangely, for me and some others I know who take it, when you feel fine, it has more bite, though not unbearable, and you don't tarry in swallowing anyway. But when you have a raging sore throat, you would think it will burn like crazy , but it doesn't . It actually feels soothing going down. I can't explain this, but for me and some others I've heard, report the same thing. When I feel like something is trying to affect me, I immediately take a tablespoon 4 or 5 times a day . The good thing of this, is that it is forgiving in amount - they are herbs combined , not drugs with strict dosage limits. Because of it's make up, I've never heard anyone taking too much...likely due to the bit of heat smile

Scott, I just buy them at a local grocer who specializes in fresh good produce . Natural food stores with a produce dept would also likely carry these and others. Just try your local stores. Most all would carry the main herbs- garlic, onion, peppers, ACV, even ginger and horseradish, but turmeric root-fresh, meaning not ground powder as a spice seasoning, would be the challenge to find. If that isn't available , I have heard that the powder can of course be used, it's just fresh herbs are the strongest and best in nutrients. Online, I'm sure anything can be ordered . I really love Azure Standard, a company who carries all kinds of foods, farm equipment, specialized things, and otherwise. You have to just scan their website to see the plethora of goods they offer. Quality , too.

Andrew, it does have bite, but after it sets infused with ACV for a while, it really does mellow out-just enough to be able to use. Large amounts aren't ingested, so dealing with a tablespoon at a time isn't hard to do. It can be mixed in water, sweetened , or just add some honey , Agave Nectar, stevia, or other sweetener to taste...that helps too. I just take it as is, you can have a chaser liquid ready if needed. I have actually got used to the taste . It is much preferred than "medicines" ingested that just deal with symptoms, and not the cause.

When you feel that sore throat coming on, that dread of coming down with what so many are getting around you, a tablespoon several times in the span of a day, for as many days as needed till you feel better, is a small price to pay.

Sir Ken...at least this doesn't smell like Hio-Hio-Ipsonyoh wink

Jeff, danvee , absolutely the very same herbs used in seasoning venison and other things ! Lots of folks , when the herb pieces are strained out , use them in salad dressings, marinade seasoning in cooking, even giving them to livestock , or as compost. No waste !

Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789726
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Sharon, forgive me if you already answered this...

How big a dose per day?

(Boatload of vitamin C in those peppers)

Mike

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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789773
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Mike, sources say a tablespoon every day or two days...I don't take it that often, but on just a maintenance program, I do try to remember this through a portion of the week. It's been a while anyway since I've been on this, but have needed to make more , and so I did finally. I don't want to be without this , with flu season , especially.

Other folks don't take it at all until flu season, then start up that program , to build up immunity and have it in their system in the case of infection. Then theres others who don't take it even then, not till they start feeling sick-in the very beginning , sore throat, upset stomach , feverish...then they load up with a tablespoon every few hours, 4-5 through the span of a day , for as many days needed .

In my opinion, a steady "drip" maintenance program of this, year round, is the best, in keeping immune system at peak levels all the time, with a big boost in ammo when sickness comes around.

You bet there's a boatload of C -in all those peppers. Much more than in citrus . Also, natural decongestant, warming (which relieves pain ) , rich in capsaicin which protects cells against cancer and heart disease , decreased cluster headaches , regulates blood sugar, anti- inflammatory, stimulate blood flow, which equals cleaning, healing oxygen to needed areas, white cell movement , toxins flushed, loaded with potassium , has iron, magnesium, phosphorous, zinc, copper , manganese, along with phytochemicals or antioxidants to help protect the onset of disease, speeds up metabolism .

With all that goodness in just hot peppers alone , imagine all those vitamins and nutrients totally absorbed by the body, instead of synthesized vitamins that the body cannot absorb and just ends up being eliminated ! That's just a drop in the bucket along with all the things the other ingredients have in them also grin

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Thank you. I would probably just end up taking a teaspoon per day... No way I'd ever remember to do something every other day.

May have to make some new additions to the garden this year if I can find the time to even plant one.

Mike


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6789785
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Yes sir.

Those things can be bought fresh , farmer's markets , local grocery outlets, even online too. I don't have the time either for garden, much as I love them. Maybe at some future time.

As often as you recall or want to, nothing is written in stone . Until you get used to it, you can easily dilute it in some other liquid, or have a chaser to drink. Even a straw will enable swallowing with very little residue felt in your mouth...though , under the tongue is immediate absorption . After it has infused for a few weeks in the ACV, it really does mellow out in heat , when you consider the type peppers and horseradish used. A small amount in the beginning sure wont hurt !

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Thanks for the recipe! Loaded up a bottle yesterday & had a tbls this morning before I broke fast & it was snappy! I don't see any of those ingredients going to waste after I strain it off either.

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Originally Posted by pcr2
one end of me could not handle that.

tomorrow i'll adventure into our mountains in search of our spring tonic--the wild LEEK,or ramp as they are called.raw leeks,leek sammich,leek dip, ham and leeks,trout n leeks and a couple i'm sure i missed.

I pick a lot of leeks.Not till late April here.


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Not sure but think this is the same stuff my ma used to make back when I was a kid

I will be giving it a try and see how it works for me

Thanks



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If this is what I must do to survive, then I hope y'all remember me fondly.

Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6791142
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I think it would make a great salad dressing.


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Bob LaRue] #6791805
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Originally Posted by Bob LaRue
Thanks for the recipe! Loaded up a bottle yesterday & had a tbls this morning before I broke fast & it was snappy! I don't see any of those ingredients going to waste after I strain it off either.



Good stuff, Bob ! After it infuses for a couple weeks or more, it really does mellow out and isn't as hot as what it would seem to be. Yes it still is "snappy " grin but not impossible to take , especially in those small amounts, and with the options of mixing in something else , or with a chaser drink.

If it was so impossible , no one would be able to benefit from it's multitude of nutrients , immune building and pathogen killing properties.

Nightlife, it sure could be the same thing , just make sure it steeps in the ACV for two weeks -or more. Sources vary on that -some say six weeks, others less. I'd say, at least two.

TW, Ha ! Well I hope you never need to worry about anything like that !

UpstateNY, you bet those strained herbs would make great dressing. They can be used in small amounts combined with your favorite liquid ingredients for a wonderful dressing- marinade, or meat and veggie seasoning.

Well I got more ACV and filled my jars full. With a quick stir to mix every day, they will infuse for the next couple weeks or so. You can see how the herbs tend to float for now, showing the empty space below of ACV . Stirring keeps them all saturated .

The good thing of making a lot, is that it is used over time, remains good on the shelf , and if a friend becomes sick, you have extra to spare to help them.

Have a look at this beauty of a spoon I found - made of olive wood ! Just gorgeous. Every spoon and spatula in the store was patterned that way.

I suppose stainless utensils wouldn't hurt the mix, or plastic, I just love wood for these things.

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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6791806
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Thanks for sharing, Sharon


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: trapper les] #6792486
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The other name may have been said but ill say it again, it also goes by the name FIRE CIDER
some people sweeten it with raw honey at the end. honey has a lot of good stuff in it also


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6792629
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TT, yes that is the name for it when honey is added. Honey does have great properties , too. I've never tried it with honey , but it sounds good.

Les, "on the edge" has added meaning these days !

Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6792782
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I don't know if I'll get to making some, but I would not be opposed to trying it, lol. The ingredients sound good, and passageway clearing.


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #6808420
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Our little newspaper has a column about what was happening 100 years ago and that is when the Spanish flue was rampant around here. One lady related that her Grandmother would ride her horse across the section to her neighbors that were sick with the flu and leave supplies on the front porch and would pick up a list of anything that was needed. This family lost the husband and a daughter to the flu, the mother and a couple of kids survived due to the kindness of the neighbor lady. The lady also said her Grandmother would make them take " vinegar water" every night, a tablespoon of vinegar to 8 oz. of water, the kids hated it but they didn't get the flu either. Didn't know if it helped but it sure didn't hurt.

Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #7052606
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I wanted to bump this post up and thank Sharon. This is good stuff! I made a big batch back in March after reading Sharon's post. It made 4 or 5 quart jars, which I stuck in the back of a pantry cabinet and forgot about for about 6 weeks.
The only thing I did differently than Sharon is I didn't strain it all out after 6 weeks. I just open one jar at a time as needed and leave the rest soaking. As a result I think my second jar was a little more potent than the first, but after that it seems to have plateaued. I've spent the last 8 months drinking it whenever I start feeling a little ill, like Sharon described. My wife and kids use it too. To get the kids to drink it, mixing with some elderberry syrup seems to work the best. With just a little tonic and some elderberry syrup in water, it makes a nice drink that the kids like. I usually just cut it with water. My kids call it "fire water."

Right now we all have covid. Wife and daughter tested positive on Saturday. It's been just like an irritating cold for us, except we lost taste and smell. We've been hitting it with a blitz of vitamin & mineral supplements, plenty of fruits and veggies, elderberry, and Master Tonic. The Master Tonic is the most tangible, immediate difference I can discern. It's incredible. Just a few minutes ago I was laying in bed with my nose and sinuses all stuffed up, and got the urge to go drink some tonic, since I haven't since this morning. I had to open and strain a new jar since my wife finished the last one today. First thing I did when I opened the jar was take a big whiff. Even though I can't smell, I could feel it start to break the congestion. It's potent! I strained a few oz into a glass, added water and sipped it over a couple minutes. By the time I walked back to bed I could breathe through my nose again, and it's continued to improve for the last 20 minutes even laying on my back. Half an hour ago I was breathing through my mouth and getting worse. Now my nasal passages are clear and getting better. Only difference, Master Tonic.

It really is incredible stuff. If you don't have a batch already, get you some. Thanks again Sharon.


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #7052665
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Don’t know how I missed this but glad you brought it back Kenaikid! Interesting to say the least.

Sharon thanks a million for posting that. Really appreciated and I plan on making some in the near future.


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #7052686
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Good stuff and a timely reminder.


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #7052732
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Thanks Sharon 2 years ago one of my hurricane roommates was breaking out in hives where ever he got bit by mosquitoes and as of last week so am I. If I show this to our other roommate who is big on homeopathic and natural healing she will prolly make some up for us. She twisted her ankle so I've been climbing her roofs as well as my own.


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #7052739
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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #7052742
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Thank you for this great post! We have used a version of this in the past along with other natural remedies including elderberry syrup. They worked wonderfully. I will be making a batch of this remedy this weekend. Stay healthy everyone

Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #7052880
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Kenai K, I am so sorry you and yours are dealing with that China virus. Your meals sound like a great plan and I'm glad the Fire Water helps !

I remember when our President got it, they watched him closely for the next few days. Just to follow through. Cant recall the amount of days, but it was just a few.

When you have those whom are loved more than life itself, the motive to want to help them with all your strength and with things that work is of prime importance. What is so great is that I haven't heard of anyone who hasn't been able to take it, there could surely be, I just haven't heard.

I take a couple tablespoons each day...to keep my immune system built up . If I feel "off", I take more. There is no rigid amount, can take what you want or feel you need.

I wish you all speedy recovery .

You can handle it, Hoss ! Texans can do this easy .... cute video, Crit-R-Dun

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Wish I could take this. I take Warfarin for AFIB. My cardiologist says I should avoid anything with turmeric in it. My wife however, swears by the turmeric she takes every day for her achy joints.


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Thanks for the recipe! Have wanted to make this for awhile, and finally bit the bullet today. Can’t wait to try it in a couple weeks! My whole family has a cold right now, wish we could be using it right now. [Linked Image]


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #7307613
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My little add mind could not read all the long posts

Do you eat it like medicine? Or food as a garnish?


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Trapper7] #7307652
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Wish I could take this. I take Warfarin for AFIB. My cardiologist says I should avoid anything with turmeric in it. My wife however, swears by the turmeric she takes every day for her achy joints.



Get her some bee hives for that. Also has a sweet by product.

Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #7307871
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I very much appreciate this thread , Sharon. Could you please answer vinke's question?


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Vinke] #7307957
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Originally Posted by Vinke
My little add mind could not read all the long posts

Do you eat it like medicine? Or food as a garnish?



Dave, you can do both. Often folks keep the herbs after straining them out of the liquid , saving them for spices in meats, salad dressing mix, etc. A little goes a long way , though, they are spicy. They can be frozen in baggies for gradual use.

The tincture is what is taken to build healthy immune systems, blood cleanser , improved circulation, and killing pathogens . Myself and many others have been doing this for decades. I am rarely sick.

PF, good point. Honey is amazing medicine too.

Dakota, good for you ! Looks like a great batch you made.

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Thanks, Sharon.


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #7308095
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Sharon, I’m a little confused. You mention chopping all ingredients by hand, but then you say it’s ready for the blender. Do you hand chop then blend it all? The pics of the bottles you made looks like the ingredients are all still chunked up not blended. I appreciate you taking the time to post this with kids school starting mid August I need to get some made

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My old drunk uncle used to mix up something like that except he didn't pour off any liquids and called it hot chow-chow.
Put it on red beans and all of his meat.
I swear you just had to pass a spoonful of it over the food to be hot.
He probably used more hot peppers than you with lots of chile petins.


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Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #7308106
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Yote, it really can be done both ways, chopping up in small chunks or blending. Yes I always chop up the hard textured ones first , even if I do blend. Care needs taken in fine chopping horseradish root. It is so dense it can tax greatly a blender. Everything else blends fine. Or just chop the horseradish in small chunks, and blend the rest if desired.

On this batch I did not use my blender, you are correct and observant ! I had the blender shown as an optional tool to use.

If the herbs are wanted as seasonings for salad dressing, casserole or meat dishes, then not using a blender is the way to go.

School season, winter, all good for having some at hand.

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Originally Posted by Cedar Hacker
My old drunk uncle used to mix up something like that except he didn't pour off any liquids and called it hot chow-chow.
Put it on red beans and all of his meat.
I swear you just had to pass a spoonful of it over the food to be hot.
He probably used more hot peppers than you with lots of chile petins.



grin As much as I like the spice of hot peppers, I can't handle much heat. I would probably measure on the milder heat side on a scale ! And peppers are just loaded with vitamin C . As well as other nutrients that are super good for the blood and circulation.

Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #8013346
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Miss Sharon...i eat these daily in life. It was always part of our life in Asia. I guess I had just been a bit run down and forgot it along with complete lack of rest. Now im back up on the horse!!!

Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #8013351
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I thought many of these great things are enjoyed in the islands .

Now this thread will be easy to find, thanks to the kind Sir who moved it here in the Health Issues area.

Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #8013449
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Love it Sharron. Will give it a go as soon as I can get the goods gathered up.

Re: Forewarned is Forearmed : Master Tonic [Re: Sharon] #8014234
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Really like seeing reports of folks who use it. Its always so nice to see people feeling better and stronger , using the amazing medicinal wonders of nature for heath and healing. Just as people the world over have done for centuries.

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Have you tried grinding the roots then blending? A grinder is how I do horseradish and is pretty simple.

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Bob, no I haven’t tried that. Sounds like a good idea. Horseradish and ginger are solid roots that need special handling from the others, I’ve found. Thank you for the idea. I think grinding would work well in the blend of the mix.

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