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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6839958
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Craig Ogorman also uses BIG traps. Like #3 Bridgers and #4 all four coiled with metal screen covers and has been catching 1000 plus a year for any years. I would like to just see how a #4 with 4 coils and metal screen cover , would react to Tesla Bot ? Would there be a difference between a #3 with a screen and a #3 without screen?? I may have to find out IF it quits raining here

Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: steeltraps] #6839976
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Originally Posted by steeltraps
Taxi. We were just talking about that! How did Pud Long and James Lucero catch 1000 plus a year with long spring ??? Would like to see reading on some long spring traps!!


I just talked to our friend in Texas.He has two Newhouse traps that he could test but right now,he is too busy playing Mr Mom and nanny to a 300 lb pet calf. crazy

Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Taximan] #6839979
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He was busy drinking beer, the other nite. So one my contest the accuracy if his MB-550 tests . LOL!!!!!

Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6840018
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Probably a really stupid question. But does any dyes or wax help hide? Such as fmj

Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6840036
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Originally Posted by plainstrapping25
Probably a really stupid question. But does any dyes or wax help hide? Such as fmj
Itís not a stupid question. I havenít really found one. Powder coating Iíve done on Cage traps and Body grips that I have doesnít seem to make a difference.Itís certainly possible.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Kirk De] #6840069
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Originally Posted by Kirk De
Originally Posted by plainstrapping25
Probably a really stupid question. But does any dyes or wax help hide? Such as fmj
Itís not a stupid question. I havenít really found one. Powder coating Iíve done on Cage traps and Body grips that I have doesnít seem to make a difference.Itís certainly possible.

It probably doesnít affect the field but it does prevent oxidation of the metal. So that would help in the detection by smell.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6840921
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Could I use a Gauss meter to measure the electro magnetic fields?


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: bic] #6840972
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Originally Posted by bic
Could I use a Gauss meter to measure the electro magnetic fields?

Itís much easier to understand and to measure magnetic field induction when youíre using tesla or micro tesla readings.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Kirk De] #6841070
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None of the Tesla models I down loaded worked correctly on my android but the gauss meter has a nice dial type gauge that I kinda like.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: plainstrapping25] #6841111
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Originally Posted by plainstrapping25
Probably a really stupid question. But does any dyes or wax help hide? Such as fmj


Although I didn't take readings I get less avoidance/scratching with dyed and waxed coils springs with MB550 4 coils as apposed to just dyed unwaxed.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6842231
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After reading the entire 9 pages of responses I remembered Locklearís Teachers of the Night videos Iíve seen and got the impression most of the avoidance of traps was because the canines were hole shy.

In the early minutes of the TotN dirt hole, he shows a coyote work a dh set from the back and side and promptly get caught in a trap set 90 degrees to the right of the dirt hole. That coyote didnít avoid the trap because it was adverse to its magnetic field. If trap magnetic fields are so repulsive, that female coyote would have gone around the trap on its way to the bait.

In the TotN beaver version, he films a beaver sniffing the exposed metal of a 330. That trap still must have had a magnetic field, but once the beaver felt the ďnewĒ addition to its domain wasnít harmful, it tried to go through it.

Iím not convinced magnetic fields have all that much to do with trap avoidance. Hole shyness, yes. But the pipe dream set has shown us there are a lot of critters caught that arenít bothered by metal screens or the traps under them. The idea that we could be setting near a fault line, or the trap has to be turned a certain direction in order to lessen its magnetism, or the moon wasnít in the 7th house long enough or whatever: Iím not ready to think in terms of avoidance based on this theory yet.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6842332
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I've put in 300+ test holes. Maybe 6 worked from back all others straight on.

Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6842333
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Hole shyness I promise doesn't exist with my coyotes here

Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Teacher] #6842362
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Originally Posted by Teacher
After reading the entire 9 pages of responses I remembered Locklearís Teachers of the Night videos Iíve seen and got the impression most of the avoidance of traps was because the canines were hole shy.

In the early minutes of the TotN dirt hole, he shows a coyote work a dh set from the back and side and promptly get caught in a trap set 90 degrees to the right of the dirt hole. That coyote didnít avoid the trap because it was adverse to its magnetic field. If trap magnetic fields are so repulsive, that female coyote would have gone around the trap on its way to the bait.

In the TotN beaver version, he films a beaver sniffing the exposed metal of a 330. That trap still must have had a magnetic field, but once the beaver felt the ďnewĒ addition to its domain wasnít harmful, it tried to go through it.

Iím not convinced magnetic fields have all that much to do with trap avoidance. Hole shyness, yes. But the pipe dream set has shown us there are a lot of critters caught that arenít bothered by metal screens or the traps under them. The idea that we could be setting near a fault line, or the trap has to be turned a certain direction in order to lessen its magnetism, or the moon wasnít in the 7th house long enough or whatever: Iím not ready to think in terms of avoidance based on this theory yet.

You might want to go back and read all of my posts since August on magnetic field of devices. Your understanding is why you cannot grasp it.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6842407
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My observations have convinced me that at least beaver, coyotes, mink, and raccoon do not avoid or even appear to notice strong magnetic fields.
Clearly though, tests show some animals can orient themselves with the earthís magnetic field when migrating or navigating travels, and strong magnetic fields can disrupt that ability so that they navigate differently or orient themselves in a different direction when traveling or navigating. But I see no video observation based evidence that strong magnetic fields or variations affect an animals behavior or activities at a specific location. Not saying itís impossible, just saying Iíve got a lot of video of animals doing their thing around super powerful magnets as if the magnet was just another rock. Walking on them, moving them while dam building, standing over them while munching some bait.... No effect. So for whatever that is worth, there you go.

Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: loosanarrow] #6842430
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Originally Posted by loosanarrow
My observations have convinced me that at least beaver, coyotes, mink, and raccoon do not avoid or even appear to notice strong magnetic fields.
Clearly though, tests show some animals can orient themselves with the earthís magnetic field when migrating or navigating travels, and strong magnetic fields can disrupt that ability so that they navigate differently or orient themselves in a different direction when traveling or navigating. But I see no video observation based evidence that strong magnetic fields or variations affect an animals behavior or activities at a specific location. Not saying itís impossible, just saying Iíve got a lot of video of animals doing their thing around super powerful magnets as if the magnet was just another rock. Walking on them, moving them while dam building, standing over them while munching some bait.... No effect. So for whatever that is worth, there you go.

Maybe you tested too many magnets and not trapping devices. I had too many experiences to not to believe what I have


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6842454
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Well that is true, I tested magnets, not trapping devices. So maybe itís not worth much. Those who are interested may draw their own conclusions. Or not.

Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Kirk De] #6842500
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Originally Posted by Kirk De
Originally Posted by Teacher
After reading the entire 9 pages of responses I remembered Locklearís Teachers of the Night videos Iíve seen and got the impression most of the avoidance of traps was because the canines were hole shy.

In the early minutes of the TotN dirt hole, he shows a coyote work a dh set from the back and side and promptly get caught in a trap set 90 degrees to the right of the dirt hole. That coyote didnít avoid the trap because it was adverse to its magnetic field. If trap magnetic fields are so repulsive, that female coyote would have gone around the trap on its way to the bait.

In the TotN beaver version, he films a beaver sniffing the exposed metal of a 330. That trap still must have had a magnetic field, but once the beaver felt the ďnewĒ addition to its domain wasnít harmful, it tried to go through it.

Iím not convinced magnetic fields have all that much to do with trap avoidance. Hole shyness, yes. But the pipe dream set has shown us there are a lot of critters caught that arenít bothered by metal screens or the traps under them. The idea that we could be setting near a fault line, or the trap has to be turned a certain direction in order to lessen its magnetism, or the moon wasnít in the 7th house long enough or whatever: Iím not ready to think in terms of avoidance based on this theory yet.

You might want to go back and read all of my posts since August on magnetic field of devices. Your understanding is why you cannot grasp it.

Teacher do you know of a trapper or have you made a trap that reduces the field by facing it to the north.Or are you just poking fun saying that it wouldnít make a difference.Have you tested your traps during a full moon with the magnetometer.Especially cage traps. Iíve heard of trappers say that I tried and it doesnít work. That it makes no difference. Have you tried with the traps you use. Maybe it takes a special trap.Or is that just silly.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6842579
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Sounds like this Is more about the use of cage traps.
Don't know about magnetic fields and the 4 compass points. But I do know I have a better catch rate when I have my trap down wind from my bait or lured location.

If what you do and believe gives you more confidence when your trapping so be It.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6843256
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All I have done is read and study. No, I havenít tested anything.

Some of what Iíve read is that animals/birds orient themselves due to what researchers say is gravitational pull of the moon. Iíll buy that.

From what I observed of my catch this last fall, in sloppy mud conditions using both aluminum and steel screens over tightly pack traps, then covered with grass. You get where Iím coming from. Before the virus knocked me down, those pipe dream sets gave me the best season Iíve had in years. If itís your belief magnetism is affecting your season, thatís fine. Iím not convinced itís affecting mine.


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