I work in health care, my brother works in healthcare, my mother just got out into part time in healthcare from full time. Out in the rural counties, we are out here twiddling thumbs. Detroit, NYC and other big cities is another story

When have we had 3000 c19 deaths in one city in one day?

Not that it matters. They are two completely different fronts.

Covid-19 is running rampant in our nursing homes but otherwise affecting few people around here. I'm conscious of what I do and realize it's almost impossible to keep from contracting this if it's in the environment.

"People like you"? Oh, you mean people who actually see it first hand and seen people dying from it and see families who lost their moms, dads, kids, grandparents and couldn't even visit them in the hospitals, people who chose to risk their lives everyday to try and help the ignorant SOBs like you two who just choose to go on about their business, and to speak out as if they are cool for defying recommendations and talking down to people who have seen it and lived it!!?

we should be waging war on Covid and it's source as yes it was most likely created in a lab in china the work on it was known and documented , how to make a bat virus transferable into humans Sars-2 but some wars are not fought with a rifle , some require you take shelter and emerge stronger and ready to make the necessary changes to strengthen our nation , defenses, economy and borders.

bio warfare is a new game. re designing our infrastructure to better sustain our nation and keep these designer diseases out is key. much of that will be how we move and interact , work .

we must stop all financial support to our enemy.

many Chinese wealthy are hiding their money in US real estate , their government doesn't want them doing this so we should oblige them and if they can't be present to testify that their property is owned by a legal US resident , then eminent domain and an auction.

we need tight borders , yes this is going to mean very restricted travel outside the US for a while.

everyone needs to be prepared at all time for a 30 day shelter in place.

how we prepare decides how well we can function during these times.

X10 ADC

So we should just go back to what we were doing and just hope for the best and hope this just goes away.?

"People like you"? Oh, you mean people who actually see it first hand and seen people dying from it and see families who lost their moms, dads, kids, grandparents and couldn't even visit them in the hospitals, people who chose to risk their lives everyday to try and help the ignorant SOBs like you two who just choose to go on about their business, and to speak out as if they are cool for defying recommendations and talking down to people who have seen it and lived it!!?[/quote]

I am at work everyday building machine that make N95 masks. I HAVE to work to make PPE.

I see people die from drunk drivers, are we banning alcohol?

I see people die from obesity, are we banning fatty foods?

I see people die from guns, are we banning those?

I am NOT ignorant. I am a citizen who knows how to weigh public health versus rights.

Freedom requires a price to be paid.

Don't want to risk your life? Don't go out. Want to help? Don't complain about the risk.

People are avoiding it, most people are social distancing and using their head. If we as a population are so concerned about the safety of others make smoking illegal, 480,000 die every year from smoking. Now before I hear" I'm only killing myself" 48,000 die from second hand smoke. Drinking kills more, heart disease and diabetes from over eating kills more. We need to be responsible for our own actions and make our own choices. I don't need the government thinking for me and neither do most Americans.

That's making it black and white.

Wash hands more, don't stand on top of other people at stores, minimize exposure.

NOT shut down the country.

treat it like defensive driving,defensive living.

I hope when you get it, you don't go giving it to some older trapper like Paul or beav and he dies from it because you were too ignorant to do your part.

Well the way things are going everybody will be home anyways because everybody went broke and then they move into there cars after the money runs out .
There risks one must take every day , in everyday life .
So one must manage those risks it's part of living.
What we have done is turn over everything to the Government out of fear.
Can you image if every state Michigan Governor???
Strap on your big boy pants because if you are waiting on a vaccine before you come out .
Well it might be a long wait. My point.
No sars vaccine
No aids or HIV vaccine
Everybody is doing well as they can under the conditions .
Thank you for service old pair of Boots

Would you be willing to shut down all interstate trucking traffic, knowing that it would certainly save a few lives due to less vehicle accidents, even though it would cripple the economy? If not, you most certainly think that a few bucks is worth more than someone's life, even if you don't realize it or like it.

Apples and oranges Rusty. And NOPE...A stout conservative (who goes to church) Sorry.

But you're correct. It's OK not to agree here. WE all see things differently based on perspective. I don't live in northern MN like Bernie and really we have it great here in MN as a whole but I do have friends who work at Mayo and Hennepin county med center who don't think this thing ever was a hoax. They were more worried than most of the population. What we did...and do matters down the road. That's been proven.

That said, Mayo is now turning the corner on feeling things are going to start getting better nationwide. So we aren't that far away from all going back to work, I "suspect".

I like that last sentence Green Country. It's clear most people here were not prepared and lost their (brown stuff).

Agreed ADC.

We can judge a society based on how we treat our most vulnerable.

Life is more than simple survival. Take away meaning to life is a sure recipe for death. Some parents if friends of mine were more scared of retiring from the local power plant than anything. Many if their friends died within a year of retiring as they lost the purpose and meaning. Depression is raging right now among people payed off or their business is shutdown

Like putting them in over crowded nursing homes which are breeding grounds for stuff like this?

No. Be aware, be safe, be smart, but not scared.

Haven't missed a day of work yet because of this, essential job. If you're in a high risk group you should take precautions accordingly.

Living in fear because something might happen to you isn't living.