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Re: Duke 650 [Re: Huntall76] #6878339
05/21/20 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Huntall76
What's the measurement from post to post, can someone post pics please

From the way I read the Indiana rules as long as it has at least 1/8 inch offset and these are 1/4 they can be up to 6 1/2 inches inside spread, either jaw to jaw or post to post and be legal here out of water. Can't be greater than 5 3/4 without offset jaws.


Measure the widest inside jaw spread perpendicular to the trap’s base plate as in Figure 3 and circle the measurement (or closest measurement) in Column 1.
Measure the inside width between the trap’s hinge posts as in Figure 4 and circle the measurement (or closest measurement) in Column 2.
If both measurements fall in Box 1, then the trap can have standard jaws (offset jaws are not required).
If either measurement falls in Box 2, then the jaws of the trap must have at least a 1⁄8 inch offset or the gap of the offset can be filled with securely attached rubber pads. “Securely attached” means with bolts or rivets, not tape.
If either measurements fall in Box 3, then the trap must be completely covered by water.
BOX

COLUMN 1

COLUMN 2

1 5″ or less 5″ or less
5¼” 5¼”
5½” 5½”
5¾” 5¾”
2 > 5¾” * > 5¾”
6″ 6″
6¼” 6¼”
6½” 6½
3 > 6½” > 6½”
6¾” 6¾”
7″ 7″
7¼” or more 7¼” or more
* The Symbol “>” means “greater than.” (i.e.: “> 5¾” means “greater than 5¾”)


Last edited by Flipper 56; 05/21/20 09:37 AM.

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Re: Duke 650 [Re: trappergbus] #6878434
05/21/20 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by trappergbus
I'll ask again, have they been tested on a working trapline, if so what changes were made???


Gary,I don't know the answer to that.There is a Management Advantage video showing a shiny,new Duke 650,that they say,at that point,Jan 7,2020,it was the only one in existence.

Maybe The Beav knows something?

Re: Duke 650 [Re: OregonBeaver] #6878451
05/21/20 12:16 PM
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As far as I know there hasn't been any field testing. Probably no need since they are just like every other coil spring trap.


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Re: Duke 650 [Re: The Beav] #6878465
05/21/20 12:40 PM
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There are a few YouTube videos showing guys using them.

Re: Duke 650 [Re: The Beav] #6878476
05/21/20 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
As far as I know there hasn't been any field testing. Probably no need since they are just like every other coil spring trap.


If they are just like every other coil spring trap, then why buy them?

Re: Duke 650 [Re: Tailhunter] #6878477
05/21/20 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tailhunter
There are a few YouTube videos showing guys using them.


550's or650's ?

Please post a link to one.I am only seeing the Duke 550 in use on the trapline.

Re: Duke 650 [Re: Lazarus] #6878511
05/21/20 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Lazarus

If they are just like every other coil spring trap, then why buy them?

Not everybody gets dozens of free traps given to them by friends ;-)

And, why not?!?



Re: Duke 650 [Re: OregonBeaver] #6878527
05/21/20 02:48 PM
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It's a great trap and the price Is right for those that have to pay for them LOL


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Re: Duke 650 [Re: canebrake] #6878662
05/21/20 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by canebrake
Of course they're not legal here, just like #3 Bridgers. I wish Georgia would change the stupid 5.75 inch law.

I couldn’t agree with you more. It sucks watching videos or pics of folks up north or out west using larger traps for yote, bobcat and wolf but we can’t down here. Heck Clint Locklear uses the big CDR traps on bobcat out in Texas.

Re: Duke 650 [Re: Flipper 56] #6878674
05/21/20 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Flipper 56
Originally Posted by Huntall76
What's the measurement from post to post, can someone post pics please

From the way I read the Indiana rules as long as it has at least 1/8 inch offset and these are 1/4 they can be up to 6 1/2 inches inside spread, either jaw to jaw or post to post and be legal here out of water. Can't be greater than 5 3/4 without offset jaws.


Measure the widest inside jaw spread perpendicular to the trap’s base plate as in Figure 3 and circle the measurement (or closest measurement) in Column 1.
Measure the inside width between the trap’s hinge posts as in Figure 4 and circle the measurement (or closest measurement) in Column 2.
If both measurements fall in Box 1, then the trap can have standard jaws (offset jaws are not required).
If either measurement falls in Box 2, then the jaws of the trap must have at least a 1⁄8 inch offset or the gap of the offset can be filled with securely attached rubber pads. “Securely attached” means with bolts or rivets, not tape.
If either measurements fall in Box 3, then the trap must be completely covered by water.
BOX

COLUMN 1

COLUMN 2

1 5″ or less 5″ or less
5¼” 5¼”
5½” 5½”
5¾” 5¾”
2 > 5¾” * > 5¾”
6″ 6″
6¼” 6¼”
6½” 6½
3 > 6½” > 6½”
6¾” 6¾”
7″ 7″
7¼” or more 7¼” or more
* The Symbol “>” means “greater than.” (i.e.: “> 5¾” means “greater than 5¾”)



Post to post looks like it's about 7 1/2 inches on the Duke 650s

I clearly says if either the post to post or inside jaw spread is greater that 6 1/2 inches it has to be completely covered by water, which means they are not legal on land in Indiana.

Read again, if EITHER measurement falls in column 3 it has to be COMPLETELY COVERED BY WATER. Don't get yourself a ticket.

Last edited by Huntall76; 05/21/20 07:21 PM.
Re: Duke 650 [Re: OregonBeaver] #6878693
05/21/20 08:00 PM
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When I look at the side of the box and it says made in china and those are the freaks that sent us the wuhan. How in the ever loving name of all that is sacred am I going to buy these with a clear conscience.

Stop supporting the people that want our demise.

Re: Duke 650 [Re: OregonBeaver] #6878760
05/21/20 09:34 PM
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[/quote]

Post to post looks like it's about 7 1/2 inches on the Duke 650s

I clearly says if either the post to post or inside jaw spread is greater that 6 1/2 inches it has to be completely covered by water, which means they are not legal on land in Indiana.

Read again, if EITHER measurement falls in column 3 it has to be COMPLETELY COVERED BY WATER. Don't get yourself a ticket. [/quote]
I thought someone said the inside was 6 inches across the jaws and 6 1/2 post to post, I wasn't buying any anyway. Sounded like the measurement on the duke add differed from what people were getting on their new traps. Beav needs to get his yardstick out and give us the true inside post to post measurement.


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Re: Duke 650 [Re: OregonBeaver] #6878783
05/21/20 09:49 PM
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Wasn't trying to be an arse hole, sometimes people interrupte things differently, the jaw spread perpendicular to the base is 6 inches but post to post it's over 7 inches. I just didn't want you reading the rules incorrectly and costing yourself no malice intended.

Re: Duke 650 [Re: Huntall76] #6878809
05/21/20 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Huntall76
Wasn't trying to be an arse hole, sometimes people interrupte things differently, the jaw spread perpendicular to the base is 6 inches but post to post it's over 7 inches. I just didn't want you reading the rules incorrectly and costing yourself no malice intended.

Thanks, no problem, I was thinking it would make the 6 1/2 measurement, but I also didn't have one to measure either.


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Re: Duke 650 [Re: Taximan] #6879163
05/22/20 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Taximan
Originally Posted by trappergbus
I'll ask again, have they been tested on a working trapline, if so what changes were made???


Gary,I don't know the answer to that.There is a Management Advantage video showing a shiny,new Duke 650,that they say,at that point,Jan 7,2020,it was the only one in existence.

Maybe The Beav knows something?


I for one won't buy any trapline tool that hasn't been proven on the actual trapline! Trappers should not test new traps for any manufacture. I was going to buy some of the D550s until I held one. I don't have time to tweak after catches.. at any price! Even free.... Confidence in our tools imperative. For most of us anyway..


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Re: Duke 650 [Re: OregonBeaver] #6879223
05/22/20 11:33 AM
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I caught coyotes In # 3 Dukes I have caught coyotes In #2 Dukes I have caught coyotes In the 550s so far I have yet to have to re build any of those traps.
The 650 should preform just fine with out all this tweaking thought process. There's trappers out there that would build their own traps to their own specs and still not be happy with the out come. Then there are the ones who just HATE Duke traps whether they have even set one. To each his own.


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Re: Duke 650 [Re: OregonBeaver] #6879238
05/22/20 11:47 AM
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Can anyone that got some tell me what the pan pressure is right out of the box if they checked them?I was planning to look at some at the rondy this year but they cancelled it.Hope to get to finger some sometime this summer.

Re: Duke 650 [Re: forestman3] #6879325
05/22/20 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by forestman3
Can anyone that got some tell me what the pan pressure is right out of the box if they checked them?I was planning to look at some at the rondy this year but they cancelled it.Hope to get to finger some sometime this summer.

3#

Re: Duke 650 [Re: OregonBeaver] #6879326
05/22/20 01:35 PM
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Re: Duke 650 [Re: Taximan] #6879373
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Trapper J has a couple vids on the 650.

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