Re: A new market for beaver?
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05/23/20 10:02 PM
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It's something to think about. The first step would be to contact Fur harvesters and see If It would even be a possibility. Maybe a call to Groney. They could contact buyers to see If any one would be interested. I would think the cased beaver would have to be flipped so the buyer could see the fur side. And that may be a problem and maybe not. We would have to get something In writing before going this route. The other thing to think about Is the fleshing aspect. The guy who did the cased beaver said It was easier that way then when the beaver was opened. But the guy that did It with the beaver split down the back said It was harder that way. I never did any that way so I can't answer that question.
But It's something to think about.
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Re: A new market for beaver?
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05/24/20 11:44 AM
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I'm not sure I'm the one but I will give It a shot next week.
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Re: A new market for beaver?
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Why not just dosal skin it down the back? That would be even easier than casing.
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Re: A new market for beaver?
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Why not just dosal skin it down the back? That would be even easier than casing. That's possibly how we would pattern them . that way they could still be nailed on boards. No need to establish new stretchers
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Re: A new market for beaver?
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Why not just dosal skin it down the back? That would be even easier than casing. That's possibly how we would pattern them . that way they could still be nailed on boards. No need to establish new stretchers That would not make fleshing easier and would not make boarding them less time consuming. Fleshing them cased should speed up that process and boarding them cased would certainly be faster than nailing them out and then removing the nails. I cased a couple of small ones, around 20 lbs iirc, several years ago. Used different opening cuts and stretched them on solid coyote boards. I was not concerned about selling them on the fur market as I had them tanned. Just something different. Skinning was not bad and fleshing was certainly easier IMO. And bigger ones would definitely need bigger boards. Not sure if I have any other pics. If I find any, I will add them.
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Re: A new market for beaver?
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They would have to be flipped for the fur market. If I do any ADC beaver work this summer I'll see how It goes.
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Re: A new market for beaver?
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Why would they have to be Flipped? Aren’t beaver just a muskrat on steroids? You don’t flip muskrats. Just asking. Excellent question Beav, why??
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Re: A new market for beaver?
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Muskrats are weighed by the grader for fur density by pressing on the neck skin with the thumbs. Beaver are weighed for density by running the hand up through the underfur behind the neck. Beaver leather is thick,They could not be weighed for fur density finish, cased leather out.
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Re: A new market for beaver?
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05/25/20 10:08 AM
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Muskrats are weighed by the grader for fur density by pressing on the neck skin with the thumbs. Beaver are weighed for density by running the hand up through the underfur behind the neck. Beaver leather is thick,They could not be weighed for fur density finish, cased leather out. That is traditional thinking for beaver, in the box thinking so to speak. This thread is more non traditional, out of the box thinking so to speak. Non traditional uses such as belly plates would change the way the pelts are evaluated as well. Coon used to be open skinned and stretched flat but that changed. Could beaver be next?
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Re: A new market for beaver?
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I got a feeling if a couple thousand of these were on the auction block with a open view of both fur and leather ,( boarded flat) somebody is going to want them. If not then they'll go into the hatter market at the cheap prices we're already getting anyway.
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Re: A new market for beaver?
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Well according to my friend he wants a large area of belly fur to work with. so having the beaver dorsal skinned he ends up with a belly area that he doesn't have to sew back together. For his use I can see case skinning would work just fine. He bought them cased skinned and not put up. So he could view the fur side finish them have them tanned and then split them up the back. But If you wanted them plucked and sheared maybe these case skinned beaver would not be the way to go. But I can see It being the way to go If there was a craft market that wanted them done this way.
I would think that case skinning a beaver would take a lot longer then using the open skinning system. And according to my buddy fleshing a dorsal skinned beaver was a lot more work.
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Re: A new market for beaver?
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He's got about 40 hides. I hope he Is successful In using them up so he will buy more.
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