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Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6882817
05/26/20 05:22 PM
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That makes sense cattails....

And the fleshing machine at GFW does not care if they are split up the belly or the back. They just need to be open. Same for their stretching and drying process.


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Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6882908
05/26/20 07:04 PM
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Since grony doesn't care how many he buys dorsal skinned how many of you are In?


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Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6882921
05/26/20 07:31 PM
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Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: The Beav] #6883061
05/26/20 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
I just got off the phone With Guy Groenwald. He said he's been wanting to do this dorsal thing for years. So He Is on board.
He said he would need about 200 beaver done this way. Then he would pick out the best 50 or so and have them dressed and then try and shop them around to see If there was any interest.
WE aren't going to get any better money at this time for doing It but It just might open up some doors down the road. This Isn't going to happen over night but It may be a start to something better.

I haven't worked out any way to get him 200 beaver. Maybe one guy might want to take this on or maybe several guys from one area could do It. It won't work If 100 guys all over the country send In 2 hides a piece. I think this has to be a localized thing.
If anyone has any Ideas just holler. Or If some one wants to call guy He Is willing to talk to us.
So the ball Is know In our court.


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Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6883170
05/27/20 12:51 AM
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No takers?


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Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6883200
05/27/20 06:12 AM
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I'm a novice, this will be my second season trapping beaver so I'm no use to you, but following with interest. What application is the belly fur used for?

Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6883275
05/27/20 08:38 AM
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I am certainly willing as I already sell most of my beaver to GFW green.frozen anyway. Flipping the opening cut is no big deal. I do not catch a lot of beaver but know lots of folks here that do. Gary usually comes to our convention in Sept. and I am sure we can find some willing participants.


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Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6883319
05/27/20 10:11 AM
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The convention thing Is a good point. I know Guy comes to ours so he can push this a bit . I know a few guys that will get on board.

Lets get this done.


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Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6883362
05/27/20 11:40 AM
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If Guy’s pickup crew are willing to buy dorsal cuts and we can get a better price over the hatter market, this could be a winner. I don’t catch many beaver but i’d be willing to sell this way.


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Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6883378
05/27/20 12:06 PM
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At this stage In the game we are going to get the same hatter market price with the dorsal cut. It's down the road were hoping to get better money.


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Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6883384
05/27/20 12:18 PM
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Well,more than one way to skin a hatter beaver, I guess.
I don't intend to be negative, but, Im guessing $6 a pound hatter price next season. This deal is nothing but pie in the sky for trappers. Seems to me if a businessman wanted to push a new item, he would pay a premium for producers to produce quality prototypes. Just looks like more slave wages to me, with one buyer having a "specialty" item in his inventory.
That wet blanket being throwed,I wish any participates Good Fortune.

Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6883411
05/27/20 01:01 PM
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Well It seems to me that maybe FHA would get behind this at some point. Anyone have any contacts with any FHA people?


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Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6883413
05/27/20 01:03 PM
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Guy told me he's hoping there's even a hatter market at all next year. The fur market is in the tank right now. He's doing this only to see if there is an available market. We're all in this together and it makes me cringe to see beaver pelts going into the hatter market. At some point we as trappers will be throwing our fur in the ditch if something doesn't change

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Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6883434
05/27/20 01:38 PM
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Just out of curiosity, does anyone see a possible blending of possum fur with wool? I know it’s a different animal than the Australian possum, but Australians are mixing the possum fur with wool and the market is developing with some enthusiasm.


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Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6883483
05/27/20 03:03 PM
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I’m not sure how well American possum fur would work. The Australian/New Zealand possum is so much different texture wise.

Quite a few years ago there was a company that was weaving with beaver fur. The product was awesome looking. Not sure if they are still doing that or not.


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Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6883487
05/27/20 03:05 PM
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Cut them up the side,then you will have all the back fur in one piece and all the belly fur in one piece.


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Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6883511
05/27/20 03:39 PM
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That would work.


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Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6883523
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I’m not a beaver trapper but case skinned seems to me like best of both worlds. The end user can have the back or the belly or both. Hope this turns into something good for the fur market. Trappers thinking outside the box and people like Groenwald taking a chance on these things are what we need to keep this market alive and thriving.

Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6883599
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Groenwald is not taking any "chances" on any thing. If they make above hatter maker price on them they keep it, you get paid hatter market price. No way to lose for them, as usual!

Re: A new market for beaver? [Re: cattails] #6883768
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Well we have to start someplace.


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