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Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: The Beav] #6910255
06/25/20 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Originally Posted by MChewk
If you go to JC Conners website he has a tip page that has information on why the shock springs are valuable.
Think toe catches....


since he's selling shock springs I'm assuming Is tip sheet Is a bit biased.


SMDH- of all the people to accuse of being dishonest, I think this might take the cake.


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Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Artrapper16] #6910417
06/25/20 03:11 PM
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I have had several J hooks straightened by timber wolves. Bye-bye trap. I typically weld then all now, but the one going to the cable stake. Mistake, two more took a walk. Now I use other means to attach them; quick links. But I also note that not a trap with a JC Connor shock spring has ever had the J hook straightened. And these are not the wolf spring just the heavy duty.

I can't deny that evidence means something. Most of these are on "short chains" which have to be < 17 inches in the "Lynx Zone".

And for the record, on an MB 550 the J hooks give way long before any part of the trap. [Linked Image]

Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Golf ball] #6910458
06/25/20 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Golf ball
I bet if Mr. Duke started selling them and sent you a couple dozen for free they would be the only way to go !

Oh no

Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Ringbill5196] #6910459
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Originally Posted by Ringbill5196
I have had several J hooks straightened by timber wolves. Bye-bye trap. I typically weld then all now, but the one going to the cable stake. Mistake, two more took a walk. Now I use other means to attach them; quick links. But I also note that not a trap with a JC Connor shock spring has ever had the J hook straightened. And these are not the wolf spring just the heavy duty.

I can't deny that evidence means something. Most of these are on "short chains" which have to be < 17 inches in the "Lynx Zone".

And for the record, on an MB 550 the J hooks give way long before any part of the trap. [Linked Image]

Very nice pics and good info thank you

Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Golf ball] #6910572
06/25/20 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Golf ball
I bet if Mr. Duke started selling them and sent you a couple dozen for free they would be the only way to go !



No I wouldn't..
I asked a trapper who catches 800 to 900 coyotes a year and he said shock springs are a . Well you can guess what he said.


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Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Artrapper16] #6910577
06/25/20 06:17 PM
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MDH- of all the people to accuse of being dishonest, I think this might take the cake

Those are your words not mine.


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Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Artrapper16] #6910675
06/25/20 07:43 PM
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Just get some and see if they make a difference for YOU. Every trap,chain swivels and mod combo is going to work differently for every person. I know live market guys who will cuss a shock spring and others who refuse to use a trap on anything without one.

Somone is gonn a say well ogorman said yadda yadda
Then somone is gonna say Robert Waddell said yadda yadda
Then He said she said so on and so on.

Somone can take my least prefer set up and say it's the best for them and I can that theirs and to the same and vice versa.
Any how, best bet is go on the trap shed buy a few try them and if they do t work the way you want just re sell em

Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: red mt] #6910907
06/25/20 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by red mt

Left lane I agree when you have to wake them up or there hiding from you as many times . It just proves to me something that works.
Those bughers if they feel like they can hide they settle right in ..


That is exactly how I see it. When they have laid down instead of fighting the trap, I pat myself on the back because as far as I am concerned that rig just did its job perfectly and it is highly doubtful I will change ANYTHING. I have also given a couple pups that strayed too far from home a ride home and of course it is a little bit easier when the dam thing isn't all bloodied from battle.


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Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Artrapper16] #6911102
06/26/20 12:45 AM
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That Is true but In certain areas drags aren't the way to go.

I trapped live market cats coyotes and fox for 12 years. And never had any turned down by the buyer. Well maybe a few greys there Is just to much fight In those tough critters. And they were all short chained and I never used a shock spring. And no domestic dog ever went home with a bloodied paw. And I trapped In southern hound country.
If shock springs are your thing and If they make you feel more at ease then use em but I don't see the need.


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Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Artrapper16] #6911182
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I still want to know by who’s definition of long and short chain we’re going by.

Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Boone Liane] #6911243
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Originally Posted by Boone Liane
I still want to know by who’s definition of long and short chain we’re going by.


I'm with you on this question, someone made the comment that they used long chains ( 16" -18"); to me that would be a stock chain with 1 or 2 swivels added. A long chain set-up on my traps run 32" - 36" total length, and I run those on heavier traps as a rule.

Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Artrapper16] #6911249
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Beav I’m just pickin at ya because I know how you like duke traps , lol and you get free stuff from him .

Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Artrapper16] #6911377
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You can't beat free stuff buddy. I'm going to have to give away my FREE doz Duke 650s because I can't set them. LOL

I run about 14" of chain on my canine traps. With 3 swivels and for the most part I stake with a wolf fang type earth anchor.


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Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Boone Liane] #6911407
06/26/20 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Boone Liane
I still want to know by who’s definition of long and short chain we’re going by.

Pretty much,, just make it up as we go I think lol


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Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Golf ball] #6911412
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Originally Posted by Golf ball
Beav I’m just pickin at ya because I know how you like duke traps , lol and you get free stuff from him .

Careful now we all got our pets when it comes trap choices whistle


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Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Artrapper16] #6911724
06/26/20 04:38 PM
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Hey I get it but I don’t get the chance to pick on the Beav very often, I’m an mb 650 fan and I think I’m in the minority . It’s ok though I’ve been buying them up pretty cheap because of it .

Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Artrapper16] #6911763
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Been using the shock springs for many years and think they help hold marginal catches. After watching a 50lb yote work the spring I am convinced. I also use the spring under the loose jaw often. Strarted running Jakes last season that came stock with the spring. Ed Medvetts and I have also had several discussions of the springs benefits.

Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Artrapper16] #6912246
06/27/20 12:53 AM
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I forget who was giving a demo at a rondy yrs ago- it might have been John Graham I don't remember but the man said he either went with 18 inches or 38 inches or chain and said if he went between those two is where he had problems.

Beaver- you mention trapping the swamp and the rigging that worked best there. Because of that I cant help but wonder if different soil conditions and environments in general dictate which gear will provide the best results. That all sounds good until Mark June gets on here and swats down my theory b/c he traps the same counties I have both in Texas and Kansas and like you he never became a shock spring fan like I am

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Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: Artrapper16] #6912261
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Re: Why super strong shock springs [Re: The Beav] #6912336
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trapperJohn wrote: "At times we are not killing the animals, like a yearling bobcat or a neighbors dog, that gets released."

If you really pay attention, every once on a while, some thinking trapper that actually looks at the big picture will share advice like this trapper did.



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