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CDAC in WI #6913758
06/28/20 05:34 PM
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This was posted in another forum. I agree:


The 2020 deer season(s) structure was recently announced. Noteworthy is the fact that the Natural Resources Board led by Kaz (as usual) chose to overturn 11 County CDAC management recommendations. Most of these dealt with antlerless harvest recommendations in Northern counties.

Irrespective of how one feels about the direction CDAC or NRB have gone with these specific management decisions, seems to me that any legitimacy the CDAC had has just gone out the window. Why invest volunteer effort in local testimony, committee membership or any other efforts for that matter when Kaz and crew continue to make capricious and (often) unscientific management decisions.

Hard to believe but Wisconsin appears to be reaching new lows in deer management decision making.

Re: CDAC in WI [Re: corky] #6913764
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If whitetails in Wisconsin are anything like whitetails in Nebraska, they don't need any management, just a lot of harvesting. Some antler restrictions would be helpful, just so some nice deer could be harvested.


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Re: CDAC in WI [Re: corky] #6913766
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Can't say I'm too surprised. I'm guessing the CDACs wanted to allow more antlerless harvest and that was shot down?

Re: CDAC in WI [Re: corky] #6913843
06/28/20 06:50 PM
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Anybody have a link to the new NRB antlerless quotas? Thanks in advance.

Chris


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Re: CDAC in WI [Re: Hodagtrapper] #6913864
06/28/20 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Hodagtrapper
Anybody have a link to the new NRB antlerless quotas? Thanks in advance.

Chris

This what you are looking for?

https://dnr.wi.gov/Permits/bonusavailability.html

Re: CDAC in WI [Re: corky] #7553751
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Re: CDAC in WI [Re: AJE] #7553779
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AJE, if you still think the WI DNR GAS what the hunter and trapper thinks or wants…I’m not sure what to say.

Re: CDAC in WI [Re: corky] #7557724
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The Holiday hunt is being proposed in my county. I don't like the idea. I'm curious how the Holiday hunt has worked out in other counties. 1 issue I see is conflict with snowmobilers.

Re: CDAC in WI [Re: Gary Benson] #7557914
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
If whitetails in Wisconsin are anything like whitetails in Nebraska, they don't need any management, just a lot of harvesting. Some antler restrictions would be helpful, just so some nice deer could be harvested.


LOL...how many wolves do you have down there Gary? Maybe you plan a hunt on public land anywhere across Northern WI and see what the reality is.

Re: CDAC in WI [Re: AJE] #7557924
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The Board overrode CDACs because they refused to listen to public opinion. At least on 4 of the 6.

Originally Posted by AJE
The Holiday hunt is being proposed in my county. I don't like the idea. I'm curious how the Holiday hunt has worked out in other counties. 1 issue I see is conflict with snowmobilers.


Unless you are in north, snow really is out of question for most of state most years. That said, we have refused to hold one here. We will only hold one if public demands we hold one.


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Re: CDAC in WI [Re: AJE] #7557976
04/14/22 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AJE
The Holiday hunt is being proposed in my county. I don't like the idea. I'm curious how the Holiday hunt has worked out in other counties. 1 issue I see is conflict with snowmobilers.


snow mobiles have a lot more of a mental issue with hunters than the other way around they think they are going to get shot , if a bright colored sled you can hear coming for a mile gets hit by a hunter , he was not only aiming he was leading the rider a good bit.
deer get used to sleds and trails early.
hunters wear orange you can pick them out at a good distance , don't ride circles around them all day like a wave runner harrasing a fishing boat and you got nothing to worry about.

also seldom good snow over Christmas in most of the state and the far north counties seem to have low enough deer numbers

it's Door , Manitowoc , Brown , Kewanee , ottogamie . calument , oconto shawno that need a bigger harvest


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Re: CDAC in WI [Re: corky] #7563870
04/20/22 12:18 AM
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It'll be interesting to see what happens next week w/ the Holiday hunt. In the county I hunt, I haven't heard anyone in favor of it yet.

Re: CDAC in WI [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7563879
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Funny stuff...... so, GCP what is the lead on a sled at say 150 yards at 35 mph, from a 30-30 of course?



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Re: CDAC in WI [Re: corky] #7847735
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I didn't participate in this year's CDAC. I'm still frustrated over the holiday hunt that was implemented this past year.

Re: CDAC in WI [Re: corky] #7851206
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People seem kind of bored with CDAC. I don't hear much interest in my area. Maybe hunters are just happy with the number of deer they are seeing

Re: CDAC in WI [Re: AJE] #7851490
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They went from about 80 management untis to 72. I don't call that simplifying much. We also added the county politics to the whole thing and still have all the override power above soit makes participation to have less value.
I hope they go back to the numbered management units based much more along habitat aspects and deer habitat or range in square miles for each unit. If we are going to be political about managing wildlife I am in favor of at least using science to some extent.

Bryce

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In order for it to work, it is a lot of work for those involved. Unfortunately, I am not sure the DNR has ever bought into it and that has hurt. Also didn’t help that elections for Conservation Congress delegates were not held for three years. The fact that the public in Buffalo County replaced their Chair this year shows that we took a step forward. I am just not sure where we are headed.


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Well, WiMarshRat, I vowed to not get into one of your long-winded discussions about the CC this year, but the statement you made that removing the chair of Buffalo County is "a step forward" shows just how full of dung and naive you truly are. The Chair has more experience and knowledge of both the CC and deer management in Buffalo county than you or anyone replacing him will ever have. The CC is now truly in a mess and weaker than I have ever seen it in my 30 years on it. The CC is going to need the knowledge and strength of folks like him to rebuild into the future. Yet you and your ilk are still supporting the nonsensical "Input" process by uninformed public and calling it progress.

You said you "are not sure where we are headed". That is very apparent. You are blindly following a movement that will be disastrous to the WCC, the only organization of its kind in the nation. Then perhaps you and your kind will be satisfied.

Moosetrot

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After the shenanigans the Buffalo County CDAC tried pulling a few years ago with that Doe only proposal, I am happy to hear there's been a leadership change. That crap show caused a lot of people to lose confidence in CDAC.

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