Re: Rebar Drag - weight for coyotes?
[Re: IDTrapman]
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04/08/20 09:47 PM
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What's everyone's experience using double-loop chain with drags? I have 100' or so I was thinking of using but...?
BTW, my homebrew drags are around 2-1/2 pounds. It will work if it is of decent size and not compromised by rust.
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Re: Rebar Drag - weight for coyotes?
[Re: Green Bay]
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04/09/20 12:12 AM
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I have a lot of different drags, The heavier they are the shorter the chain. If I have a drag that is a little light or doesn't hook up as well as some (or if I am in completely open ground) I just offset that discrepancy with a longer chain.
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Rebar Drag - weight for coyotes?
[Re: Taximan]
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What's everyone's experience using double-loop chain with drags? I have 100' or so I was thinking of using but...?
BTW, my homebrew drags are around 2-1/2 pounds. It will work if it is of decent size and not compromised by rust. He is right so long as its in good shape its fine. It also carves a groove that's easy to see when it passes over a rise or around a tree trunk. I kinda like it. I got some that is yellow coated and heavy duty. It is basically my fav for cats because they will lay so still in tall grass you'd almost step on them. I can see they yellow chain before the catch sometimes.
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Rebar Drag - weight for coyotes?
[Re: Yukon John]
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04/09/20 08:14 AM
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Those look awesome! Will they work in timber as well as open ground? Looking for something that will work on yotes and cats. critters don't care if it's heavy like WD's or not and pre-hooking in timber allows light drag use AND not wasting time looking for critters, PLUS they leave all their scent near the set to attract more. IME heavy drags are best for open grassy areas a few swivels in the first 2 ft of chain is essential regardless of weight or chain length
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Re: Rebar Drag - weight for coyotes?
[Re: Green Bay]
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04/09/20 08:16 AM
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Most will say not to use/trust it...I have 2 yellow labs that are hard on everything, and my 1st double loop chains lasted a couple years (tied up all the time). The swivels mid chain actually wore out before the chain, although some of the loops were wore/stretched pretty good. I'm not sure of the size, but I'd say it was #3. My opinion would be to use it, and check it after EVERY catch, but I haven't used drags before either. Good luck.
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Re: Rebar Drag - weight for coyotes?
[Re: Green Bay]
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04/10/20 10:28 PM
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Those are bad-a no matter what they weigh! If you don't mind, I will fashion mine after yours. Thanks for sharing!!
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Re: Rebar Drag - weight for coyotes?
[Re: Green Bay]
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04/15/20 01:32 PM
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My drag situation is different than most of you but my question is do you often get the chain wrapped around the base of the grapple without a modified v bar welded to the bottom? I use drags occasionally but would like to use them more. I’m occasionally amazed at the distance a wolf can get with a drag of any material. I run 10’ of chain, and 10’ of extension cable with a grapple. With a green log toggle I just have a short piece of cable for cinching on the log. Weight is not an issue as all My gear is in a sled. These are what I’ve made and using.
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Re: Rebar Drag - weight for coyotes?
[Re: Green Bay]
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07/04/20 04:18 PM
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Finally got around to working on these. As I mentioned earlier this spring, I found some rebar and decided to get some drags made. A family friend who is a lifelong welder (He is currently 94) needed some work to do because work has been slow due to Covid 19 so I brought it in to him. Did a great job. The picture shows five drags but he did a complete dozen. These should last me a lifetime. Thanks for all the ideas. Brian
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Re: Rebar Drag - weight for coyotes?
[Re: Green Bay]
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07/04/20 05:34 PM
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Get a concrete block drill a hole through one end place a eye bolt In that hole and hook up your chain. Trust me no matter what kind of country your In a coyotes Isn't going very far.
We were involved In this coyote study and we were trapping 100 of acres of harvested bean fields. The land was all cap rocked so you couldn't get In a stake anywhere. But there lots of small areas of heavy brush. We just tossed the block back In cover and made the set up tight to the edge. That way we didn't have to hide much chain. In most cases the coyote moved the block enough so It didn't destroy the set. And we just left the blocks In place for next year.
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Re: Rebar Drag - weight for coyotes?
[Re: The Beav]
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07/05/20 09:11 AM
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In my opinion It's more about how much chain you have between the trap and the drag. This has always been my experience too. I use a lot of drags and my fav set ups allow the catch to get to cover b4 anyone sees them and a surprising number don't fight the trap much if you do it this way. Heavy well made drags, I don't need as much chain as I do on the old grapple type.
The JC Conner drags, Freedom Brand, and some super slick homemade ones I bought off the trap shed all go between 3 and 4 pounds and I would use any one of them setting for lions but I might add an extra spring (wolf strength) and a few more feet of chain.
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Rebar Drag - weight for coyotes?
[Re: Green Bay]
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07/05/20 12:47 PM
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I know a guy who has a piece of pipe added to his drag chain with about six chain loops about three feet from the actual trap. This "guide pipe" fits over a piece of rebar angled much as you suggest. When an animal gets in the trap it can only go the direction the rebar / guide pipe are aimed.
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