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Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: buddy5] #6921695
07/06/20 01:57 PM
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Skunks arent a complicated process and people are more nervous about them than is warranted. We don't have a lot of em in my part of they stayed but I catch a few mostly in nuisance situations. Find a local nuisance guy in your area and see if they can teach you how to take care of em.

I've only got hit once by a skunk and it was just a few drops. It was just mad as can be before I even got there apparently. As soon as he saw me he unleashed a 180* arc of spray and I was just barely in range. Most of the ones I've dealt with i could put in the truck without covering, though I still do.

Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: buddy5] #6921708
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Nuisance trappers here carry them back to their shop and put them in a CO2 box. As a homeowner, to dispatch one in a neighborhood is a problem as I mentioned in some previous posts. I weld with CO2 but not sure I want to build a setup just for an occasional skunk.

Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: The Beav] #6921720
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Originally Posted by The Beav
I'm binging to wonder about buddy5. I think a moderator should kill this thread.


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Sorry guys, no harm meant. My thought process was to ensure an instant death thereby respecting the animal rather than knowingly letting it suffer for some length of time. Which I might add, happens when you drown it and that was suggested by others earlier. Letting it suffer while it drowns seems rather disgusting to me hence the reason for trying to work through a more humane and instant process.

Due to the legal restraints placed on us in Ohio, I was trying to figure out how to best operate within the parameters I have to work in. I have the process down for coons or possums in a cage trap but if skunks are involved, the dispatching process is considerably more difficult. As I mentioned, others appear to be OK with the animal suffering while it drowns but I wouldn't be able to do that.


Please educate yourself more on how to handle dispatching a trapped animal humanely. If you cannot use the proper trap or dispatch method, leave it to the professionals.

Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: ] #6921734
07/06/20 03:00 PM
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Cysquatch, how would you dispatch a cage trapped skunk while living in a neighborhood? Would you have a different method that hasn't been discussed yet? I'm quite open to learning something new if it's quick and humane. I have no issue dispatching other animals, skunks are the problem.

In terms of educating myself:

Nuisance trapping professionals around here use cage traps which I also have and use. Secondly, they dispatch the animals with a CO2 box which I can also do if I were to build one. However, according to a training manual on nwco.net Nuisance Wildlife Control Operators (which details simple plans for building one) it takes skunks about 30 minutes to expire.

So that is the professional method. Maybe you have a better solution?

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Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: buddy5] #6921740
07/06/20 03:16 PM
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That's a recommendation but it's not what all professionals use. It's definitely not what I use.

Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: buddy5] #6921745
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Originally Posted by buddy5
Cysquatch, how would you dispatch a cage trapped skunk while living in a neighborhood? Would you have a different method that hasn't been discussed yet? I'm quite open to learning something new if it's quick and humane. I have no issue dispatching other animals, skunks are the problem.

In terms of educating myself:

Nuisance trapping professionals around here use cage traps which I also have and use. Secondly, they dispatch the animals with a CO2 box which I can also do if I were to build one. However, according to a training manual on nwco.net Nuisance Wildlife Control Operators (which details simple plans for building one) it takes skunks about 30 minutes to expire.

So that is the professional method. Maybe you have a better solution?


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Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: buddy5] #6921749
07/06/20 03:28 PM
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SniperB, I have a friend that works for a large local suburban pest control outfit. I can't believe how much money they get to get rid of your coons, etc. Anyway, we were discussing what they do with the critters and he told me they all make their rounds, load their trucks up with the cages, then back to the office to the CO2 boxes. I haven't talked to other companies so maybe some have a different method.

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Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: buddy5] #6921768
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Look up Bob Noonan's odorless skunk removal book.

Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: buddy5] #6921778
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Just found this thread on a skunk poke pole. https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/391964/ultimate-skunk-pole

Thanks to someone on here, I learned about the Therminator Skunkinator Poke Pole and DIY versions. That's a device I didn't know about. It's only 60" long though. Will it work on coons & possums too and will it go through the mesh of a standard Havaheart cage trap?

Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: buddy5] #6921808
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possums i dont know, coon dont bother as youll just end up getting your pole broke as they will fight it. Not familiar with that type of system but if its not a thumb controlled pole like I have that WCS sells, they generally dont fit in cages without opening the doors or cutting access ports.

Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: buddy5] #6922301
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Good grief. INSTANT DEATH OR NOTHING!!!
Good luck with that. You are dreaming, my friend. The skunk pole isn't instant, drowning isn't, either. Nor a knock on the head, a heart attack, a stroke, electrocution, lethal injection, poison, hanging, getting run over by a car, most car accidents, getting eaten by another animal, starving, disease, and the list goes on.
It is admirable to be as humane as possible, and most here strive for best practices, but death is never an instantaneous, flash-boom occurence.
I'm sorry.
On the other hand, neither is birth....


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Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: alaska viking] #6922317
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
Good grief. INSTANT DEATH OR NOTHING!!!
Good luck with that. You are dreaming, my friend. The skunk pole isn't instant, drowning isn't, either. Nor a knock on the head, a heart attack, a stroke, electrocution, lethal injection, poison, hanging, getting run over by a car, most car accidents, getting eaten by another animal, starving, disease, and the list goes on.
It is admirable to be as humane as possible, and most here strive for best practices, but death is never an instantaneous, flash-boom occurence.
I'm sorry.
On the other hand, neither is birth....

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Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: buddy5] #6922498
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I believe the AIHTS agreement requires time to unconsciousness in anything not a weasel or marten to be less than 5mins.

Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: buddy5] #6922602
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When my buddy was In the business he used the CO2 box . It was pretty quick and painless.
When I worked on a fox farm we electrocuted the fox It was fast but a far cry from being painless.
I don't believe you could ever put down a coon with a skunk pole.


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Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: buddy5] #6923077
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Does anyone know if there are legal issues about using acetone to euthanize nuisance skunks? Of course if you keep your mouth shut there aren't any but just asking.

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Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: buddy5] #6923354
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Originally Posted by buddy5
Does anyone know if there are legal issues about using acetone to euthanize nuisance skunks? Of course if you keep your mouth shut there aren't any but just asking.



I've heard it could be an issue in some areas, as far as I know, Ohio isnt one of those.

Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: buddy5] #6934928
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I've caught 6 coons and I think 5 possums so far. Mostly with my body grip setup. Coons are always dead, possums are nearly always alive. Must be made differently than coons or are tougher.

I made the mistake of turning the possums loose from both my cage trap and my body gripper. I'm now very suspicious that possums are part of my trouble.

The problem now is that I've educated them. Any advice on how to catch them in one of those two traps? Change bait? Something else?

Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: buddy5] #6934945
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I don't think you can educate a grinner.


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Re: Problem with a Duke body grip [Re: buddy5] #6935083
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I hope not. I had my cage trap set up last night in an area they recently rototilled and nothing this morning. Bait hadn't been touched (sardines and canned cat food) but down about 50' from there was another dig.

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