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Peeking in on James #6924745
07/09/20 09:56 AM
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With a question for the retired counselor.

What is your explanation for the natural propensity of humankind to so often, and so easily, act in what society classifies as a negative manner? Survival of the fittest evolutionary trait?

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Interesting question.


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No fetchin up, entitlement, lack of accountability, lack of morals. # satan at work.




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Re: Peeking in on James [Re: run] #6924798
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Originally Posted by run
Where are you, James?


Considering the time difference I'm going to guess he's sleeping.


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Lack of accountability and morals. Many people think the world revolves around them. Unfortunately, some parents and institutions ingrain this idea in our children with the everyone's a winner and you are entitled to things just because you are alive mentality.

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James will check in when he has a moment.
I was just wondering his take on why psychologists tell us our brain tends to conjure the negative more so than the positive?

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I have not verified this but I have been told by several friends who deployed to the gulf wars that there is a 'kids' TV channel for Arabs Algizere (sp?) maybe that has kids shows depicting suicide bombings and the like of Jewish people as a heroic act.

If we contrast that to what I sure hope our kids and grandkids are taught, I think the difference becomes clear.


Some parents raise their kids to love opportunities, embrace a philosophy of love and appreciation of their fellow mankind and some raise their kids to hate. That being said, I try to always judge one by their actions, but it appears to me that some pretty despicable actions are being basically approved by some truly evil people and a great big glob of useful idiots like what passes for news media at this time.


I think we are all born with the propensity to be selfish and spiteful but there are many opportunities to answer a higher calling. Some obviously accept them and some are not quite so inspired.


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People think too much and don't dole out discipline enough.

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Parents were too busy on their smartphones to give the kids attention.


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Originally Posted by Mark June
With a question for the retired counselor.

What is your explanation for the natural propensity of humankind to so often, and so easily, act in what society classifies as a negative manner? Survival of the fittest evolutionary trait?





Don't have to be an attorney to answer that. But a bit of time studying sociology would handy. I sure sometime in your educational past you took such a class,



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Originally Posted by Mark June
James will check in when he has a moment.
I was just wondering his take on why psychologists tell us our brain tends to conjure the negative more so than the positive?


Used to be a psychologist on here I believe.
Again, not an attorney question unless that is what the guy got his undergraduate degree in.

Common sense. Stop and look at the big picture. What provides more stimulus on any give day for most people?
Worded another way, what type of feedback do the majority of folks receive, negative or positive?

Has the art of parenting improved or worsened in the the last 3 or 4 decades?

None of this has happened overnight.

Have parents (which includes a large member of the population that should never have bred) had better or worse live in the past 3 or 4 decades?

Lots of pieces to this crap pie.

I could go on but I am neither a attorney nor a psychologist. But I have spent more time with each than I should have! LOL



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Good points Mac.
The counselor and I have a fun time.
His is the tact of a short question and then you respond.
I was trying to T it up as he would offer it.

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Got it. Warm down there Mark? Hotter than heck here



Re: Peeking in on James [Re: ] #6925461
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I don't know that you're right with such a negative view of humanity. I have a different view.

I see most people trying to do the right thing most of the time. I see people--with some exceptions--caring about other people and helping them out when they have a chance.

If I'm wrong, then show me your evidence. I'm not aware of evidence to support your dark view of humanity. Sure, some of us commit atrocities on others, but that's not most of us.

I now happen to be reading a book on sociopaths written by a psychologist. She contends sociopaths don't have the one thing the rest of humanity shares: a conscience.

Fortunately, only one in twenty-five people is a sociopath. Your view seems to encompass them, but not most of us.

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Re: Peeking in on James [Re: James] #6925493
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Originally Posted by James
I don't know that you're right with such a negative view of humanity. I have a different view.

I see most people trying to do the right thing most of the time. I see people--with some exceptions--caring about other people and helping them out when they have a chance.

If I'm wrong, then show me your evidence. I'm not aware of evidence to support your dark view of humanity. Sure, some of us commit atrocities on others, but that's not most of us.

I now happen to be reading a book on sociopaths written by a psychologist. She contends sociopaths don't have the one thing the rest of humanity shares: a conscience.

Fortunately, only one in twenty-five people is a sociopath. Your view seems to encompass them, but not most of us.

Jim


If 1 in 25 are sociopaths and if my math is correct, this means 13,200,000 people in the United States are sociopaths. That is a lot of nut cases running around to possibly do us harm.

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Isn't the natural conscience formed in a human by the time a kid is 3 or 4 years old. A head hunter that eats people would probably teach the ( art of cooking your enemy) to their kids and thus no conscience would be violated. Maybe they just need a good old Holy Ghost revival to wake the spiritual conscience.

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Originally Posted by James
I don't know that you're right with such a negative view of humanity. I have a different view.

I see most people trying to do the right thing most of the time. I see people--with some exceptions--caring about other people and helping them out when they have a chance.

If I'm wrong, then show me your evidence. I'm not aware of evidence to support your dark view of humanity. Sure, some of us commit atrocities on others, but that's not most of us.

I now happen to be reading a book on sociopaths written by a psychologist. She contends sociopaths don't have the one thing the rest of humanity shares: a conscience.

Fortunately, only one in twenty-five people is a sociopath. Your view seems to encompass them, but not most of us.

Jim


I object your honor. Counsel is not restating my question as I asked it of him.
James, the Psychologists routinely speak of Negativity Bias in humans, and my question was; What is your legal opinion on this human trait?
You answered a question I never asked.
As a matter of record, my family and friends tell me I'm an optimist. I bet many trappers are. "we're gonna catch more tomorrow than we did today?"

Keep focused counselor. Don't invent.
The judge sustained my objection.
Please proceed.

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My answer was in part an objection to the form of your question. You assume a fact not in evidence: the alleged propensity of people to act in a negative manner.

I disagree with your assumption, and I said why. Ask a less loaded question, and maybe I can answer it; but I doubt it, as it seems to require psychological, not legal, expertise.

Homo sapiens is a complex species. We are capable of selfishness, and also of altruism. In most of us, there is at times a war between selfishness and altruism--between good and evil, if you wish.

I get the sense you have an intended course for this thread to follow. Why don't you either rephrase your question, or answer it yourself?

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Re: Peeking in on James [Re: ] #6925546
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Sin nature.

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James,
No motive.
I've answered many a Q that you've raised and I was trying to take your pulse is all.
You like to Wiki and Google so you can zero in on countless articles related to negativity bias in humans.
I would agree there is a mix of good and evil in most people.

Just wondering' is all.

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