The first 11 or 12 years that I trapped for beaver and otter I only used Victor and BMI traps. Mainly Victor. I learned when setting the traps exposed to lay a two or 3 inch diameter stick in front of the trap on each side where the animal can’t see the Outline of the trap as he aproachs. The animals would not avoid the set and I caught hundreds of beavers and otters that way each year. I shared in my trappintales video.I live in Georgia and the closest place to buy supplies was a long way away. So I bought cheaper traps when I replaced the 330s. The cheap replacements were about 1 inch shorter they were a little harder for me to set by hand. I used them as I would victors. I soon learned that the animals coming down those runs sometimes avoided my set. So for the next several years I always use Victor traps in situations like that because I thought the bigger opening was what was solving the problem.
Many years later when I started testing traps for magnetic fields I learned that the victor traps radiate it off the top just like the cheaper traps but there was a big difference. The victor trap had a reduced magnetic field going through the center of the trap. The cheaper trap made in China or Korea had a high magnetic field induction going to the center of the trap. That told me that what was happening with the cheaper trap was that the animal was seeing the higher induction of the field and avoiding to set. That further gave me a reason to understand magnetic fields in cage traps and snares. It was a very learning experience. That’s why I have confidence in what I’ve learned at least one of the ways are reasons to believe and understand.

i have wonderd if magnitism could efect that. i also have heard of that some ttaps give off harmonics or vibrations and that the animals can hear or sence them.

Didn't we beat this horse already?

I read an article recently on dogs using magnetic fields to find their way back, in places they had never been before.

https://phys.org/news/2016-02-magnetoreception-molecule-eyes-dogs-primates.html

This site has the most information. At the end of it there’s a link you can click on that actually list animals that can see the magnetic field

Star date: 8/4......
Beam him up.

Yep know critters can SEE magnetic wave lengths. They must have hired that guy that talks to animals to get the critters point of view. LOL

Normally I wouldn't advocate this kind of teasing, but this guy deserves every bit of it. I tried a constructive conversation, but it just goes to "read my book for $19.99" hahaha!

I wouldn't normally respond like that either but this magnetic field stuff Is just to far out In left field for me.
If a critter refuses to go through your snare or body grip It's because It either sees It of smells It or finds It to be something out of place.
Same goes for that perfect dirt set with the perfect bait and lure combo.
Until we can communicate with animals we will never know how they react to certain things.

I couldn't have said it better myself. Entirely too many variables to blame magnetic fields.

And both of you are smart enough to know without a doubt that a magnetic field can not possibly have any affect on animal behavior????? Lots of things in this world that I do not understand but just because I do not understand it does not mean that it does not exist.

There are lots of cases where animal behavior has been scientifically proven to use tools that we can not see.

I will agree that there are lots of factors involved in animal behavior and that makes it difficult to establish the scientific proof but it does not disprove it either.

I never claimed that he is incorrect, I have my doubts. The way I look at it, a person brought to light a "problem" and is profiting off of the "solution". That is snake oil in my opinion.

Looks like to me you are making light of the fact that the man is trying to profit from his lifetime of experience. You even referred to it as teasing.

Your words.......



Kirk has posted a lot of info on this website and I believe he is a well respected member of the trapping community. How you perceive him and the ideas he has shared is up to you.

I never brought his credibility as a trapper into question. I was questioning/criticizing his testing methods. Forget the subject matter. I feel it is immoral to profit of of a solution to a problem he made up. PERIOD. I'm sure he's a great guy, with more trapping experience than I'll receive in my life. At the end of the day the subject matter is very illogical. Using experience and observation is a small portion of a scientific study. I'm done talking about the subject now. Have a great day

Test case.

A beaver or maybe an otter Is swimming under water In an established run. It all of a sudden detects this magnetic field being emitted from the 330. The beaver thinks there Is a magnetic field here there must be a 330 In this run. Does the beaver or otter put on the brakes and turn around because of It?

One year I spent 2 months trapping beaver In SC with a friend. We took 387 beaver and 48 otter. Just think If we would have de magnetized those 330s we may have caught 500 beaver.
There may be a magnetic field but I don't think It's going to effect your catch where It's going to be all that big of a deal.

I know at least one coyote that uses magnetism to his advantage

Must affect old bucks as well. Had a few come down the trail upwind and suddenly stop and turn and never make it to one of my shooting lanes.
Ducks have to be the worse. I can’t tell you how many flocks have been given “just one more pass” and then fly off and never hit the dekes.
That magnetic field is pure evil on animals.

It's the gun barrel that Is giving off signals. LOL

The thing that I find funny about all of this is that he had a thread on this subject and a very lengthy one at that, about a month ago and people eventually moved on and all of a sudden he posts this thread to bring it back up. I could understand if someone else did but he did, seems to me he's just trying to promote his book again to get more book purchases , and that's fine, if he can make money off of this book than more power to him but I do think there's a forum for pedaling your own stuff. Jmo

Beav The third sentence in my post refers to exposed Conibears. The first sentence in the chapter on Conibears in my book states that they should be best set underwater to hide the Projected magnetic field.
If you’re gonna make fun, maybe you should make fun of what I actually said and what I meant.