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160's for marten? #6914696
06/29/20 03:22 PM
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Anyone use 160's for marten and in what application? Using a pan or just regular trigger wires? I really don't want to gear up with 120's as it is so limited in use. I don't even use 110's for rats.
Dean

Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6914711
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My trapping partner and I use 155's, we get less refusals from big males. We got tired of seeing big tracks go up to 120 sets and then walk away.


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Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6914712
06/29/20 03:46 PM
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Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6914714
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The top picture is a small male caught by it's face in a 110, the bottom is a big male suitcased in a 155. We experienced less snapped empty traps, less refusals, more large males, and better full body catches after switching to bigger traps.


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Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6914719
06/29/20 03:58 PM
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I'm sure 160's would work good too. We use unmodified triggers.


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Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6914721
06/29/20 04:04 PM
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We caught three in a Sauvageau 220 bucket set as well, and two in a 330 Belisle set. These were for wolverine, but caught marten occasional marten in them as well.


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Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6915203
06/30/20 12:08 AM
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Caught a couple in a 155 and one in the single spring version (150). Have otherwise used 110s and 120s, if buying marten traps I buy 120s but use what I have available at times. And whenever I order from MTP and have an option for a free 150 or 155, I take it. They seem to work good on marten, but won't fit in a lot of boxes made for 120s.

Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6954006
08/04/20 04:35 PM
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They work fine, I use lots just because I have a lot of fisher in my area.
I put pans on them all and have been very happy with the results. I can't say I've ever had a snapped trap without fur.

Re: 160's for marten? [Re: FL cracker in AK] #6954238
08/04/20 07:51 PM
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i see what you did there with that cubby! that is slick i realy like how you set up your pole to get the marten up.
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Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6954659
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Yep, we couldn't get our marten to climb, so we kept our wooden boxes and flower pots about a foot off of the ground, and wired a tip up pole to the trap. Pull the small side of tip up pole and trap down to the box, the trap sets tightly in the box or pot, when it goes off, it shoots out of the box, letting the tip up pole pull the marten off the snow so as not to get shrew gnawed.


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Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6954660
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Called the tip up set, not original with us.


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Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6955084
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I use a few just in case a big male Fisher or wolverine come by.

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Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6957663
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I plan on using them with pans. I just don't want to get set up and have the 160's not have proper strikes on the marten d/t size. Probably worrying too much.

Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6957729
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120 is plenty for marten. Even fisher.


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Re: 160's for marten? [Re: FL cracker in AK] #6957796
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Originally Posted by FL cracker in AK
Called the tip up set, not original with us.


Cracker, did you make those lift sets yourself, or inherit them from Family Trapper?

Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6957800
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I think he showed my trapping partner how to make them, or at least described them to him, and I want to say he gave my partner some pots and 110's. We didn't care for the flower pots and 110 conibears, so we started making plywood boxes, and using 155 conibears. From what he showed me the last time he was at my house eating supper, when he showed me where he used to trap, there are other people trapping there now. We trap further North. It would be neat to see one of his old sets out there, but I doubt we will.


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Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6957802
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Family Trapper showed me his snare set up for catching marten, I have three that he made hanging in my workshop, and material enough to make a hundred or so. One day I will. Dean, I have never used conibears with pans, so I can't comment on that.


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Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6958084
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As "alaska viking" said a 120 is plenty of trap for marten and fisher. As well it is a very efficient trap for mink and rats. I have used them with a pan trigger for years for mink, marten and fisher with trap set 4-5 inches in front of the bait for many years with great success. The mink and marten are suitcased with a neck thorax strike and fisher a base of skull neck strike. A trap set close to the bait, relative to the target species stance, is much more productive in producing consistent humane strikes than one placed far away, in a box or cubby. This occurs because the animal is stable at the bait and not moving through the trap to get to the bait when it is triggered. When set at the appropriate distance from the bait for the target species you will get a consistent humane neck or neck/thorax strike. This occurs as they have their neck through the trap jaws with a foot or chin pressing down on the pan while working the bait.
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Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6958107
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Originally Posted by Dean Chapel
Anyone use 160's for marten and in what application? Using a pan or just regular trigger wires? I really don't want to gear up with 120's as it is so limited in use. I don't even use 110's for rats.
Dean


My 120 sized traps are set up exclusively for marten in the manner described in bctomcat’s post. The only difference would be that I prefer the wedge shaped boxes, search William Larkam aka big land trapper on YouTube. My experiences with them leave nothing to be desired. The sets are very efficient in taking marten, fisher, and our occasional climbing mink.

Re: 160's for marten? [Re: Dean Chapel] #6958184
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Further to my previous post, I have never noted a fisher that has climbed refuse to enter my 120 trap. I have seen them refuse to climb though. The 120 trap provides an unobstructed entrance of around 4 1/2 inches which a large fisher can get their head easily through. If a fisher wants the bait it will squeeze through. The following picture is of a large fisher with its head through a 3 inch hole. [Linked Image]

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