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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6984504
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My prediction Trump will hold every state from 16 and flip multiple states (Pennsyvania, Michigan, Virginia) for an electoral landslide. A large enough margin to make a challenge appear to be moot but the dims will try anyway. The question will be if they try electoral shenanigans of D governors ordering faithless electors, failing to certify or other nonsense. Needless to say there will be blood in the streets as Antifa and BLM will go nuclear.
In the end Trump will be sworn in on time and on the capital steps as the army will have been deployed to DC. Then begins the deployment of federal forces to stamp out the nonsense.

Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: warrior] #6984528
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Originally Posted by warrior
My prediction Trump will hold every state from 16 and flip multiple states (Pennsyvania, Michigan, Virginia) for an electoral landslide. A large enough margin to make a challenge appear to be moot but the dims will try anyway. The question will be if they try electoral shenanigans of D governors ordering faithless electors, failing to certify or other nonsense. Needless to say there will be blood in the streets as Antifa and BLM will go nuclear.
In the end Trump will be sworn in on time and on the capital steps as the army will have been deployed to DC. Then begins the deployment of federal forces to stamp out the nonsense.


Yes, if not a very close version.



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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6984535
09/06/20 11:22 PM
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The real question should be is whether the dims will still be in existence come 2024?
If the left in it's coalition of freak show ideologies is allowed to remain as a cohesive electorate then 2020 is just a punt.

Longterm we need to be looking at the deconstruction of leftist bastions such as the education systems particularly the university, all media platforms focusing on removal of social media monopolies. That and restoration of state prerogatives and power.

Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6984539
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BTW, at the same time the RNC is long overdue for a restructuring as well. A resurgent Trump win combined with a coat tail influx of young new blood could be the impetus for forced retirement of the country club rinos.

Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6984584
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You cant ban ideology's and limit speech if you want to have a bill of rights. You cant have a "truth board" to over see media. You cant tell a privately owned bushiness what they can and can not say. Those black dress wearing boneheads could rule that facebook twitter youtube etc are in fact public forums and NO speech can be limited. Of course then they become another pornography forum.

Never forget that people have options when it comes to college. What we need is to give people who depend on public basic education options. I still like the idea of vouchers. Federal tax dollars going to the school of the parents choice. Make public schools compete for students.

Those communists wanting more "free" stuff are going to need dealt with. Else our way of life is only going to exist in the books that dont get banned.


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6984604
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I know that's a non starter nor would I want to go down that path as the pendulum swings both ways.
Going forward I would hope to see the dims as a party fracture and hemorrhage the useful idiots that keep voting for them. I think we are already seeing some of that with the walk away movement and local pols (mostly leo/sheriffs) jumping ship. JMO but in this cycle we'll probably see the biggest crossover since the Reagon democrats. The R will need to accommodate these folks. The dims may have lost the African American vote as a solid block vote (if only 20% swings then it becomes unreliable), same for the blue collar rank and file union vote.
Next it would be nice if the dims do some infighting in the aftermath but not likely to happen as they practice good party discipline as shown by their retention of the Bernie bros. The main thing is breaking their hold on a large chunk of the electorate.
Next the radicals need targeting and in this case there are legal ways to go after them. Rand Paul is on record for looking into their funding. Riots can't go for over three months without funding. Ted Cruz is already laying the groundwork for RICO charges if its found that funding supported criminal activity such as arson and murder. That'll split out the true terrorists and expose the dim collusion.
But still all this is short term and not the longterm answer without addressing the rot that has poisoned the minds of the next generation of voters, the university and public education system. School choice and vouchers, ideally with an ending of federal input will be a start at the K-12 level. On the university level there needs to be a shattering of the insulating power of free taxpayer money into the system. No federally guaranteed loans, grants or other inputs that render the university immune to real world free market forces. Make the university fiscally accountable for the type and quality of education they offer.

As for actual speech being prohibited, that can only occur if the case can be made that said speech actually harms or promotes harm to others. At this point some of the BLM "kill the pigs" stuff is questionable if not actionable but we could try to put some fear in a few.
Its my hope that some day we will recognize human life at all stages and make infanticide and advocating for infanticide a criminal act as it should be.

Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6984617
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Almost forgot the third leg of my hypothetical stool. Public sector which may already be in motion with the Durham probe and Trump's recent ban on critical race relations training in the federal sector. There needs to be a break between the civil service and leftist actors. Ideally destruction of public sector unions and/or a return to a "spoils" type process to allow the executive more leeway in cleaning house with each new administration to break the party/civil servant link.

Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6984647
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As for the media, that's inviolate with one huge exception, social media. Google/twitter/facebook/et al enjoy certain legal projections that need to be reconsidered namely monopoly and publisher type protections. Currently since they aren't technically publishers of their content they are immune to slander and libel suits. A privilege the mainstream media does not have. However, I believe by their arbitrary censorship of some opinions and favoring of others they are in effect acting as editor of public comment if not actual publisher. BTW, this concept also applies to forums such as this one.
It may be that the monopoly through advertising might be the way to break social media influence.

Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6984742
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Michigan's secretary of state said on Sunday her state's full results of the Nov. 3 elections won't be available on Election Day, advising voters it could take a week for a final tally.

"We should be prepared for this to be closer to an election week as opposed to an election day," Jocelyn Benson said on NBC's "Meet the Press." "The bottom line is we are not going to have the full results and a counting of all of our ballots on election night. We already know that. We've asked the legislature to make changes to the laws to give us more ability to be prepared and count those ballots more efficiently."


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6984751
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I see Michigan has a dim for a SoS, why am I not surprised.

Particularly when we are hearing reports of local officials flipping, most notably in the iron range.

Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6984850
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Right there tells you it will be at least 11/10 for verified results and I believe that it will be a lot longer. the election result issue could be the tipping point to total chaos.


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: swift4me] #6986192
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Originally Posted by swift4me
Like I told a buddy today... I understand "absentee voting" but "voting by mail" is another deal. I vote by mail because I live in Europe.

As said here recently, if you can't take the time to vote properly as we always have, then you shoudn't vote.

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We were talking about these absentee ballots just the other day. it seems like this year more than any other is about them, and i dont beleive covid has anything to do with it. my wife got one at her parents house and she hasnt lived or gotten mail there in over 15 years. im not an expert on this but im doubting there are any checks and balances on preventing someone to vote both ways

Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: warrior] #6986193
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Originally Posted by warrior
The real question should be is whether the dims will still be in existence come 2024?
If the left in it's coalition of freak show ideologies is allowed to remain as a cohesive electorate then 2020 is just a punt.

Longterm we need to be looking at the deconstruction of leftist bastions such as the education systems particularly the university, all media platforms focusing on removal of social media monopolies. That and restoration of state prerogatives and power.


I know its a small feat, but my wife finally got out school to stop watching and teaching cnn in history class!

Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: trapper20] #6986197
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Originally Posted by trapper20


I know its a small feat, but my wife finally got out school to stop watching and teaching cnn in history class!



That is yuge!



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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: warrior] #6986207
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Originally Posted by warrior
I see Michigan has a dim for a SoS, why am I not surprised.

Particularly when we are hearing reports of local officials flipping, most notably in the iron range.


When did Georgia become a swing state? Looks like it is turning into North Carolina?

I see no landslide!


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: warrior] #6986236
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Originally Posted by warrior
My prediction Trump will hold every state from 16 and flip multiple states (Pennsyvania, Michigan, Virginia) for an electoral landslide. A large enough margin to make a challenge appear to be moot but the dims will try anyway. The question will be if they try electoral shenanigans of D governors ordering faithless electors, failing to certify or other nonsense. Needless to say there will be blood in the streets as Antifa and BLM will go nuclear.
In the end Trump will be sworn in on time and on the capital steps as the army will have been deployed to DC. Then begins the deployment of federal forces to stamp out the nonsense.


Trump carried PA and MI in 2016


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