Re: Scent-free Is it necessary?
[Re: Spade]
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09/25/20 06:58 AM
09/25/20 06:58 AM
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Firth, Nebraska
jabNE
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Wade has a good point for us that trap coyotes around here. There are farm houses and acreages at least every mile and even every 1/2 mile around here. Farm equipment, a little trash blowing around here and there, our coyotes encounter human scent every single day and 99% of the time id wager what they encounter doesn't hurt them or cause a negative reaction so why would they be wary of it. While the odor could be offensive it probably doesn't hurt them. Ive got a doe and fawn that walk right long rhe little chain link fence around our septic lagoon. All the books would say deer wont go near that thing stinking like human excrement in its breakdown stages but ours do and fairly frequently too, within 5 to 10 feet of it. Doesnt hurt them, its common around here.
One of my best guaranteed a coyote or two each sesson spots is same little opening in field where the farmer gets out to take a whiz, ive watched him do it. The center of the road even has oil and other fluid drippings where his tractor idles while he steps out. My theory is neither odor there caused a negative reaction to a coyote and they seem to like both dirthole bait sets and post sets at that very spot...same as they do on the next farm along an open fencerow. Why would I chose to set where he (the farmer) pees and has fuel and oil drops? I don't know but I set i every year and I catch a few there every season like clockwork. I have no clue why, it defies everything I read not to do near a set.
Now...around here every truck that stops tends to shoot at coyotes standing in open...that id wager is a bigger fear factor for our coyotes. Ive set with and without gloves. I do my best to have clean equipment and be quick and get in get out but I don't overly worry about it. Jim
Last edited by jabNE; 09/25/20 07:00 AM.
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Re: Scent-free Is it necessary?
[Re: Spade]
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09/25/20 09:02 AM
09/25/20 09:02 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
U.P. Michigan
Spade
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U.P. Michigan
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Just checked the game camera, no yotes, but I did have a fox come and take the squirrel, and then another fox checked out the hole. However what surprised me was a bear came into about 2 feet from where I took a leak, and hightailed it out of there, never knew for the size they could move so fast. So, I'm thinking maybe because the fox has very little to no contact with humans, human scent don't bother them. However, since bear season is in, the bear has had human contact of some kind.
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Re: Scent-free Is it necessary?
[Re: steeltraps]
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09/25/20 12:19 PM
09/25/20 12:19 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Wisconsin
The Beav
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Wisconsin
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Wolfdog91. I have thought some on it. Muskrat VS a real rat? I'd say coyote can't tell a difference Most of my coyote contract jobs are in hot weather So I Set very few dirtholes. Mainly flat sets. I do set lots of dirtholes In Wet weather. But with flat sets. Ogormans and many other lure makers have = Exotic stuff in them. Wiley E. Has mint? In it. I have caught 100s of coyotes with this lure of Mr Ogorman's Lure. So my view is = exotic can catch you lots of coyotes at Flat sets Muskrats VS a barn rat ? If I can tell the difference a coyote sure could. A muskrat has a very distinctive odor more so then a barn rat or a cotton rat. I'm sure any kind of meat In the hole will catch coyotes but the muskrat stands alone when It comes to a powerful odor.
The forum Know It All according to Muskrat
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Re: Scent-free Is it necessary?
[Re: Boone Liane]
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09/25/20 07:00 PM
09/25/20 07:00 PM
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Joined: Apr 2012
Southern Michigan
trappergbus
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Southern Michigan
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Every coyote has a threshold of human scent (or sight, or sound) it’s willing to accept as safe.
For some it’s a lot.
Others it’s very little.
Exploited populations versus un-exploited change this.
Population density changes this.
And a lot of other individual factors specific to individual coyotes.
Since my goal is to catch ALL the coyotes, and not knowing every coyote that may walk by my set, I take basic, common sense precautions at reducing and managing human intrusion at locations.
Dumb, bold, aggressive coyotes are easy to catch. But they aren’t all dumb, bold, and aggressive. Perfectly put...
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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Re: Scent-free Is it necessary?
[Re: Spade]
#7000297
09/25/20 07:10 PM
09/25/20 07:10 PM
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Southern Michigan
trappergbus
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Southern Michigan
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You will NEVER convince a coyote you weren't there now matter how fast you make a set, even if ya wear a wet suit and a mask. But, it pays off to have clean equipment and clean about yourself. The population is low here compared to other parts of the world. If I don't catch as many as possible that come to a set then my catch suffers big time. It's not how many you catch, it's how many more could you have caught..
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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Re: Scent-free Is it necessary?
[Re: trappergbus]
#7000361
09/25/20 08:15 PM
09/25/20 08:15 PM
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Montana
Taximan
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Montana
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Every coyote has a threshold of human scent (or sight, or sound) it’s willing to accept as safe.
For some it’s a lot.
Others it’s very little.
Exploited populations versus un-exploited change this.
Population density changes this.
And a lot of other individual factors specific to individual coyotes.
Since my goal is to catch ALL the coyotes, and not knowing every coyote that may walk by my set, I take basic, common sense precautions at reducing and managing human intrusion at locations.
Dumb, bold, aggressive coyotes are easy to catch. But they aren’t all dumb, bold, and aggressive. Perfectly put... Boy,I can't argue with any of that,either.
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Re: Scent-free Is it necessary?
[Re: Furvor]
#7001163
09/26/20 05:57 PM
09/26/20 05:57 PM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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If making a blind trail set it's possible to come in from the side, place descented trap and drag with a pole, and push a few grass strands atop the trap. I consider that like using an AR to kill a mouse. More knowledge right there. Where you stand when you make a set will have a affect on some coyotes, not all but some.
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Re: Scent-free Is it necessary?
[Re: Boone Liane]
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09/27/20 12:55 PM
09/27/20 12:55 PM
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KS
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KS
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Every coyote has a threshold of human scent (or sight, or sound) it’s willing to accept as safe.
For some it’s a lot.
Others it’s very little.
Exploited populations versus un-exploited change this.
Population density changes this.
And a lot of other individual factors specific to individual coyotes.
Since my goal is to catch ALL the coyotes, and not knowing every coyote that may walk by my set, I take basic, common sense precautions at reducing and managing human intrusion at locations.
Dumb, bold, aggressive coyotes are easy to catch. But they aren’t all dumb, bold, and aggressive. this sums it up pretty well
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Re: Scent-free Is it necessary?
[Re: Spade]
#7003311
09/28/20 09:43 PM
09/28/20 09:43 PM
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Central Ohio
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Yep, I agree with what Boone Liane said. I don't see too much avoidance on my lines. I feed them with bait piles all over. They hope they smell me. . . 
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Re: Scent-free Is it necessary?
[Re: ks wolfer]
#7004070
09/29/20 06:13 PM
09/29/20 06:13 PM
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Joined: Jul 2009
100 Mile House, BC Can
bctomcat
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100 Mile House, BC Can
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Since my goal is to catch ALL the coyotes, and not knowing every coyote that may walk by my set, I take basic, common sense precautions at reducing and managing human intrusion at locations. The key to great success IMO.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: Scent-free Is it necessary?
[Re: Spade]
#7006112
10/02/20 01:33 AM
10/02/20 01:33 AM
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Alaska and Washington State
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Alaska and Washington State
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Your body is constantly sheading dead skin particles that canines probably have no difficulty smelling. Depending on the weather and the length of time that has transpired, they most likely know you've been there whether you wear gloves or not.
"My life is better than your vacation"
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Re: Scent-free Is it necessary?
[Re: Boone Liane]
#7007038
10/02/20 09:53 PM
10/02/20 09:53 PM
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Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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I don’t need to convince them I wasn’t there.
I need to convince them it’s safe regardless that I was there. Or provide enough attraction that it out weighs their caution.
Last edited by Yes sir; 10/02/20 09:53 PM.
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