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Re: Bait meat - geography specific?? [Re: btomlin] #6980221
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Every time I throw a beaver out in the field, its gone by morning. The coyotes here love em.

Re: Bait meat - geography specific?? [Re: btomlin] #6980228
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I'm a lure guy, reason? a well formulated lure contains all the triggers and exploits their natural instincts.


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Re: Bait meat - geography specific?? [Re: Yes sir] #6980398
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Boone
I ask because I trust your experience and knowledge with coyotes, when you rank bobcat as #3, are basing that off of it in a finished formulation or off its attractiveness by itself, or both?
Thanks


Based off just the meat in its pure form.

I figure if it’s meat they’re used to eating or want to eat, than I can’t hardly screw it up in a prepared bait or lure.

Which has always perplexed me on how effective horse has always been. I can’t imagine many coyotes out there have actually had the opportunity to eat horse, so it has to have a very alluring smell to make it so effective.

Same goes for bobcats. Especially for coyotes that have never seen or smelled a bobcat.

Deer on the other hand, is a mainstay for many coyotes. They’re used to it, raised on it, etc. I can drag a deer and a cow into the same spot and as long as I can keep em in deer at that spot, the cow will melt away.

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Re: Bait meat - geography specific?? [Re: btomlin] #6980476
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Thanks for your response. Ive used your bait and lure and I bet you dont screw too many formulations up.

Re: Bait meat - geography specific?? [Re: btomlin] #6981181
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How many predators road hunt and how many deer are consumed along the highway?

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Re: Bait meat - geography specific?? [Re: ScottPhillips] #6981677
09/03/20 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottPhillips
How many predators road hunt and how many deer are consumed along the highway?

Scott



A lot of them.
I've always said that 'deer' is the best 'natural' bait for trapping canines in winter conditions.
It is for snaring anyway !
Especially when it is used in bulk.
Here groundhog works very well, as does skunk rendered down.
I personally haven't had great success using beaver, ground or otherwise, on coyotes or foxes. although it does seem to have an attraction to bobcats.

Re: Bait meat - geography specific?? [Re: btomlin] #6982067
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I'm going to try some deer meat with nothing else this year. It sure is a staple around here. They definitely tear down the deer here and quickly. While not exactly natural the one meat I haven't seen mentioned is pork. At least here in Nebraska the hog lots are a draw for coyotes for miles. I've seen where they've dug down 2-3 feet in compost piles and drug whole hogs out to eat every night before here. I used straight pork liver as a base and man it can really get the coyotes going. Prepared baits are just simpler/cheaper than me messing around with things anymore. I really do want to try straight deer specifically right after our deer season when it becomes a staple for our predators.


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Re: Bait meat - geography specific?? [Re: btomlin] #6982189
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Out of the 33 coyotes we caught and collared 8 of them were road killed when they were working road killed deer.

In my opinion muskrat Is what's on every ones menu when It comes to wild critters. Even muskrats.

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Re: Bait meat - geography specific?? [Re: btomlin] #6982302
09/04/20 07:15 AM
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Agree with ScottPhillips & LT GREY
I use Deer meat in my area.

I get 'Deer Dust' from local processor (for Free). Deer Dust is the meat dust from band saw. It's garbage to the processor. It's gold to me.
Ready to use, Free, no skinning, chopping or grinding.
Used fresh or mixed with non-freezing agent or mixed with enticing ingredient(s).

Deer Dust, fresh, nothing added-
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Canines have to work set longer to get every morsel or crumb.

Re: Bait meat - geography specific?? [Re: btomlin] #7042275
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Hern that is a fantastic idea.
Jim

Wade, ive been using pork trimmings for a long time. Instead of buying pork chops we buy whole loins and cut/process our own chops. I trim all the fat and save the trimmings. Either fresh frozen, or a little canning salt and cube the fat trimmings to about 2" pieces. Its been a great bait for dirtholes around here.
Neighbor guy processes his own deer and saves a bucket of trimmings for me too. Nothing beats deer around here as you are well aware.
Jim


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Re: Bait meat - geography specific?? [Re: btomlin] #7042567
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I think that horse is the best meat option for canines. Horses are everywhere in this country, either wild or domestic, so it’s familiar to most critters. Economically you can’t find cheaper meat, unless you’re getting free scraps like some have said. You can go to any auction house and get an 800-1000 pound horse for almost nothing. I’ve seen em go for as little as ten bucks. I’ve had great luck with horse meat on coyotes and fox in Montana and in Nevada.


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Re: Bait meat - geography specific?? [Re: The Beav] #7042569
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Out of the 33 coyotes we caught and collared 8 of them were road killed when they were working road killed deer.

In my opinion muskrat Is what's on every ones menu when It comes to wild critters. Even muskrats.


I’m going to test that. Around here there are areas where there isn’t a muskrat within 200 miles, if muskrat and beaver works there it would really debunk the geographical relevance theory.


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Re: Bait meat - geography specific?? [Re: btomlin] #7042878
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I believe every area is different and it never hurts to try something different. I grew up in PA and trapped on a farm that had hogs and sheep. The fox and yote wouldn't touch a hog but would devour the sheep. Up here in AK it is the total opposite, for me anyhow.
The same holds true with skunk. Down in the lower 48 there are many lures that have skunk in it for the fox and yote and many people connect with those lures, up here I have had just the opposite experience, they smell skunk do a 180 and haul butt.
Nothing ventured nothing gained. Hope you connect!

Re: Bait meat - geography specific?? [Re: Boone Liane] #7043030
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Originally Posted by Boone Liane
Originally Posted by Yes sir
Boone
I ask because I trust your experience and knowledge with coyotes, when you rank bobcat as #3, are basing that off of it in a finished formulation or off its attractiveness by itself, or both?
Thanks


Based off just the meat in its pure form.

I figure if it’s meat they’re used to eating or want to eat, than I can’t hardly screw it up in a prepared bait or lure.

Which has always perplexed me on how effective horse has always been. I can’t imagine many coyotes out there have actually had the opportunity to eat horse, so it has to have a very alluring smell to make it so effective.

Same goes for bobcats. Especially for coyotes that have never seen or smelled a bobcat.

Deer on the other hand, is a mainstay for many coyotes. They’re used to it, raised on it, etc. I can drag a deer and a cow into the same spot and as long as I can keep em in deer at that spot, the cow will melt away.



This comment should be etched in the trapping gospel/bible. Horse meat hands down catches coyotes. Bobcat is the same, but it is perplexing how effective horse meat is. I do have 5 gallons of (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) meat that I can't wait to get out this year. Will be interesting to see how the coyotes react to it.

Re: Bait meat - geography specific?? [Re: WadeRyan] #7043228
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Originally Posted by WadeRyan
I'm going to try some deer meat with nothing else this year. It sure is a staple around here. They definitely tear down the deer here and quickly. While not exactly natural the one meat I haven't seen mentioned is pork. At least here in Nebraska the hog lots are a draw for coyotes for miles. I've seen where they've dug down 2-3 feet in compost piles and drug whole hogs out to eat every night before here. I used straight pork liver as a base and man it can really get the coyotes going. Prepared baits are just simpler/cheaper than me messing around with things anymore. I really do want to try straight deer specifically right after our deer season when it becomes a staple for our predators.

Thats interesting. We have way too many wild hogs here and you’d think they’d be a staple of coyotes diet, but based on hogs we’ve killed and dumped with a camera on them, all we get are buzzards and an occasional hawk. A deer however will be picked clean by coyotes in less than 24hrs in some places. Of course I don’t get to trap those places, lol.

Re: Bait meat - geography specific?? [Re: btomlin] #7044271
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Quick test for you to run on a bait base: Take that meat base and throw it out to your dog. If he eats it immediately, it's probably a great bait that would work for other canines.

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