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Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7063655
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Fall 1979 or Jan. 1980, trapping marten around the mouth, lower Nowitna R. marten were exceptionally thick. Caught one canary. I think it was a full canary. Trapping that general area until 1991 never caught another. Never heard of anyone else catching one either.
I think they are mostly a random occurrence, like albinism.

Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7063671
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That is interesting about catching more than one of them in the same area.So that would mean there is not just one born like an albino but they must carry some genetic trait that they are passing a long? That is what I was thinking but hard to explain the random ones caught other than they are more in that area but scarce.But maybe its a combination of both.

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Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7063745
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This is the one I had mounted.
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Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7063747
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There is a pelt at our local ADFG office from one taken in the interior maybe 20 years ago that is much lighter, almost a cream color.


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Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7063765
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Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7063884
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Thank you.


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Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7065509
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Here is a lot of marten I bought last year at Fur Harvesters, all listed as canaries, so you can see the variation....also bought all the canaries this year but don't have them yet,
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Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7065522
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Only 2 there would I call canaries. Bet I've caught around 500 marten over the years that look like the bottom one.

Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7065535
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yes, that is why I showed the picture; there is a lot of variation in them. I know the grader and he bases it, i think on the amount of yellow in the underfur or something like that. Anyway, you can see for yourself what a lot looks like....

Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7065849
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Canary: These pelts have a pale orange appearance. The underfur is gray only at the bottom of the hairs. The middle band of underfur is white and the tips are yellowish orange. The guard hairs are orange in the midline and yellowish orange on the flanks. Canary pelts are rare.


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Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: martentrapper] #7066057
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
Only 2 there would I call canaries.


I was thinking the same.

Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Washfurbuyer] #7066164
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Originally Posted by Washfurbuyer
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Here is a lot of marten I bought last year at Fur Harvesters, all listed as canaries, so you can see the variation....also bought all the canaries this year but don't have them yet,
George Brady
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None of those are canary marten.

Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7066180
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I agree, Boco. Maybe #3, in the right light.


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Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7066193
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Who are we to question professional Canadian fur graders? blush


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Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7066223
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The FHA marten grader is an American I believe.
You know what a canary marten is dirt-you quoted it from the Canadian fur bible.

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Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7066345
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Inter-nut grading is always difficult, er internet that is.
Canary's all get put aside in a separate pile, then the decision of what to make in a bundle. At least when I worked on the grading floor.
mind me asking Washfurbuyer what was the hammer price? ( not with your shipping/ handling charges) but the price trapper got.

When you have 60-70,000 it is a lot easier to pull that 10-12 yellow pelws out

Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7066506
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Waggler picture #1,#2 show what the canary look like.

Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7066513
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Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Boco] #7066990
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Originally Posted by Boco
The FHA marten grader is an American I believe.
You know what a canary marten is dirt-you quoted it from the Canadian fur bible.


Yes I do. I'm with you guys. Those are mostly Pales / Xpales. IMHO


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Re: Orange - Canary Marten ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7079824
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