Victor makes the only conibear. All others are bodygrip traps.

Are Buteras (BMI) still being made? I like their 110 and if retooling I would consider them.
I have mostly Duke they work as needed.

Belilse 160s will be tough for you to set without setters. They're an awesome trap with short powerful springs. I've killed coon, possum, otter in Arkansas with both them and dukes. As mentioned they don't fit "h" stands, which I like to run. Try half dozen of each see what you like. Remember the magnum styles(belilse) can act like a foothold anchor them !! If you're near South Central ark I could lend/sell you couple of each to try. I'll be there after Jan 1 to start bvr contracts.

For the money and quality I say go BMI. Just not sure about their availibility anymore.

Savague is by far the sturdiest trap. But more pricy and i use belise more, i don't like the speed dip that comes on Savague. Im not saying dukes don't work, they obviously do, but i couldn't bring myself to buy crap made in a communist country. I would buy something from made in your own country and buy it from a guy close by, and build a raport with him. If your new he will likely give you pointers and thats worth the few extra bucks you might have saved by shopping around online. Just my 2 cents though.

I use mine on H stands all the time. They fit perfectly and are stabilized rock solid on them. Triggers are great too. The springs don't go around the corners either making them a tangled fricken mess in the truck to straighten out. They catch critters that would have gotten away too with their complete closure, rats, beaver and otters by the tail in 330s, beaver mink and rats and coons by the foot in 220s, and before you say it, I have not seen any more damage to coons caught that way than in a bigger foot trap like a #2 victor that many use for rats and mink these days. Their safeties are awesome too. He said the "Best" not the cheapest.

I bet 2 out of 3 experienced water trappers in Ontario have settled on magnum belisles when buying new. Very good value for the money IMO. I believe it's best to find a trap manufacturer you like and stick to it. Over time you get to know all the little idiosyncrasies about your brand, strengths and weaknesses and can apply your skill accordingly.

Sauvageaus are my favorite, followed by Belisle. Belisles tend to get bent jaws every once in a while, but are easy to bend back. These traps work as footholds if the animal somehow gets his foot to set off the trap before his head gets in there. Other brands not so much.

Good tools MAKE you money.

In my opinion-using all 3-the best are sauvageau,LDL,and Belisle in that order.
What gives the belisle the advantage is cost.They are the cheapest to buy of the 3.
The best marten trap is the LDL,but I use some belisles for marten also.
I use both belisles and LDL for beaver,with a bunch of older bmi and victor series ones thrown in for nuisance trapping.

On a sidenote-the belisle safetys are great on beaver sets,but are a pain in marten boxes.The safetys have to be slid down the spring arm for the trap to fit the narrow slots.This is not so much of an issue when you wax them.

There is no difference with using any of the same size traps on our under ice beaver superstands.
The 11 + 12 inch sauvageaus are too big though.

never heard of Sauvageau, where do you buy those?

I run mostly belisles and dukes 330s I still have a few and like the true 10X10 BMIs. My favorites are belisles because they are just easier and more versitle . The dukes have superior springs to most all the others . They are the strongest and keep their temper for decades eaven with the safeties set all summer

I just noticed your name LOL, I didn't mean to steal your name, mine is a running joke about me with my friends

Be careful, as not all bodygrippers are made equal. Bridger increased their 330's by half an inch, and they're no longer Illinois legal.

Lol lmao they definitely fit on H stands and they kill anything it touches. Live coon in a Belisle extremely unlikely unless your Belisles has problems which is extremely rare almost never happens. The Belisle catches don't even move an inch. The original triggers are deadly and amazing.

Idk why but you are definitely a hater or you don't know how to use them.


Belisle traps are the best body grips on the planet by far.

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$45 a pop for the beaver version

Idk why but you are definitely a hater or you don't know how to use
Hmmmm,yeah,ok

If I only had Belisles, that’d be fine with me. They’re the safest BGs on the market as far as I’m concerned. I read posts that they only fit certain stabilizers, but they fit every single type that I’ve tried, so I’m not sure where that comes from (possibly older model, I don’t know).

Not wearing a 330 is a goal of mine, and there aren’t better factory safeties out there than belisle.