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TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES #7134847
01/13/21 01:41 PM
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isnarewolves Offline OP
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Here we go again. Rep. Andy Josephson pre filed his bill from last session, to allow municipalities to regulate trapping within their boundaries.

http://www.akleg.gov/basis/Bill/Detail/32?Root=HB%20%2050


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Re: TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES [Re: isnarewolves] #7135379
01/13/21 08:54 PM
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Thanks for the heads-up.


Made it almost 3 years without censor!

Re: TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES [Re: isnarewolves] #7135556
01/13/21 10:00 PM
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If a dog gets caught in a trap in town here it’s the dog owner who’s in trouble for having the dog off it’s leash. I happen to know from personal experien....ahhh I mean a friend told me so.


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Re: TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES [Re: isnarewolves] #7136497
01/14/21 01:23 PM
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Update. It looks like the House could be under democratic control again this session, but worst yet the senate seams to be organizing as a democratic controlled senate. Leaks have been noting Senator Click Bishop is in favor of this. If this happens, this bill has legs! Let Senator Bishop know your thoughts. His contact info is: Senator.Click.Bishop@akleg.gov and his phone number is:Toll-Free: 800-336-7383.


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Re: TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES [Re: isnarewolves] #7140664
01/17/21 05:23 AM
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Hang on, are you telling me that currently municipalities can NOT ban or regulate trapping?? Because Kenai has had it on the books for years..

https://kenai.municipal.codes/KMC/3.10.060
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Boco couldn't catch a cold.

But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
Re: TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES [Re: KenaiKid] #7140962
01/17/21 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by KenaiKid
Hang on, are you telling me that currently municipalities can NOT ban or regulate trapping?? Because Kenai has had it on the books for years..

https://kenai.municipal.codes/KMC/3.10.060
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That is correct. According to Alaska law, only the Board of Game is authorized to regulate trapping. Why else would Sen Josephson be trying to pass a bill to MAKE IT LEGAL?!!!

But just because it isn't legal, doesn't mean some municipalities aren't DOING it! They will do it as long as they can get away with it, but that does not make it legal!

Be patient, ATA is working on getting this straightened out in court. But it takes time, money and lawyers!

Pete

Re: TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES [Re: KenaiKid] #7141010
01/17/21 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KenaiKid
Hang on, are you telling me that currently municipalities can NOT ban or regulate trapping?? Because Kenai has had it on the books for years..

https://kenai.municipal.codes/KMC/3.10.060
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So am I suppose to believe no one in Kenia city limits is trapping rodents and squirrels?


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Re: TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES [Re: isnarewolves] #7141046
01/17/21 12:55 PM
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Juneau also has trapping "laws" on the books, and sadly, there was a time when AST enforced it for them! No kidding. The local ordinance was even included in the state trapping regulations.
Thankfully, Wildlife Protection, as well as ADFG, have both dis-continued these practices.


Made it almost 3 years without censor!

Re: TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES [Re: isnarewolves] #7141077
01/17/21 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by isnarewolves
Originally Posted by KenaiKid
Hang on, are you telling me that currently municipalities can NOT ban or regulate trapping?? Because Kenai has had it on the books for years..

https://kenai.municipal.codes/KMC/3.10.060
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So am I suppose to believe no one in Kenia city limits is trapping rodents and squirrels?


Haha, no you're not. It's an absurd, vague law. It also says in the same section, "no one may intentionally kill any animal," but hunting and small farming is legal in city limits.
I'd be willing to bet there is also some fur trapping going on, as expansive as Kenai city limits are. I just wasn't aware that the local regulation was illegal. Thanks for the info guys.


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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Boco couldn't catch a cold.

But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
Re: TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES [Re: isnarewolves] #7141722
01/17/21 08:21 PM
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Nome also restricts trapping in City limits.

-TJ


Some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.

Re: TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES [Re: isnarewolves] #7141780
01/17/21 08:46 PM
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Local jurisdictions (incorporated cities and boroughs) might have some authority but if they do I believe it is limited to their own property. For example a city-owned park. As for federal or state land within city limits, no.


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Re: TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES [Re: isnarewolves] #7142090
01/17/21 10:56 PM
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Municipalities can pass all the trapping laws they want but I can tell you there are zero city cops that will enforce them. AST shouldn’t have to pick up that slack.

Re: TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES [Re: Top Jimmy] #7142701
01/18/21 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Jimmy
Nome also restricts trapping in City limits.

-TJ



I believe your brother is an expert in this regard, no?!!!!!!

Pete

Re: TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES [Re: Pete in Frbks] #7143375
01/18/21 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete in Frbks
Originally Posted by Top Jimmy
Nome also restricts trapping in City limits.

-TJ



I believe your brother is an expert in this regard, no?!!!!!!

Pete


Unfortunately. Though, now I hear they have a fox problem in town and are trying to get folks to trap them. Odd how the circle seems to close.

-TJ


Some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.

Re: TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES [Re: Top Jimmy] #7144666
01/19/21 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Jimmy
Nome also restricts trapping in City limits.

-TJ


I left there in 2012. At that time a city permit was required to trap in town. Otherwise no restrictions. But with so few people (2) trapping, enforcement was nil.
Jimmies bro was on city council after I left. Anything change? Fox problems are regular in Nome. Rabies is a controlling factor in the fox population.

Re: TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES [Re: isnarewolves] #7144674
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I got stopped by city police when beaver damage control trapping in Fbks. limits, 1988 I think. State lawyer and city lawyer went toe to toe, sorta. Result was city may BAN trapping on public safety grounds. Could not "regulate". I believe F&G had to quit the damage control for a while. I believe it came back later with multiple beaver problems in town.

Re: TRAPPING IN MUNICIPALITIES [Re: martentrapper] #7146294
01/20/21 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
I got stopped by city police when beaver damage control trapping in Fbks. limits, 1988 I think. State lawyer and city lawyer went toe to toe, sorta. Result was city may BAN trapping on public safety grounds. Could not "regulate". I believe F&G had to quit the damage control for a while. I believe it came back later with multiple beaver problems in town.


Let's not poke THAT sleeping bear!

ADFG/ATA's "educational beaver trapping" program in the Chena is working just great!

Pete

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