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Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap #7141285
01/17/21 02:51 PM
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The Alaska Wildlife Alliance, anti trappers, are actively working to eliminate trapping in Alaska. Here is the latest:


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MAP THE TRAP: Reporting Traps Along Recreational Trails
Trapping occurs on many different lands across Alaska; state, federal, Native, and private lands all have different permissions and reporting requirements. Currently, there is no statewide data collection on incidental trap encounters, including information on how many pets are caught in traps, where most pet trappings occur, or areas where trail users see wildlife caught in traps. We seek to understand the dynamics between traps and trail users, as well as gauge Alaskansí perspective of traps near trails.

During the first year (2020-21 trapping season), we will collect information from the public and publish a report with the consolidated data. This information will help inform our work, and guide conversations with trappers, non-trappers, the Board of Game, municipal authorities, land managers and others. Thank you for sharing your experiences and perspective with us!
Date you saw the trap
MM DD YYYY
Location of the trap (please include as much information as you have so we can map the trap) *

Type of trap
Body grip or conibear
Leg or foot hold
Snare
I don't know
Was there an animal in the trap?
Yes
No
If yes, what species was the animal and was it alive or dead?

Did you report the trap to local authorities? If so, who did you report it to?

What type of recreational activity were you doing when you observed the trap?

Do you have photos of the trap?
Yes
No
If we have additional questions about this report, how can we contact you?




If you havenít done so already, we would appreciate you providing us with your perspectives about trapping along recreational trails (below)
Name (this information will be anonymous to Alaska Wildlife Alliance) *
First Name Last Name
Email *

Have you personally seen a trap while recreating outdoors in Alaska?
No
Yes
Have you ever seen an animal, dead or alive, caught in a trap?
Yes
No
If yes, describe how those encounters made you feel or influenced your behavior.

Have you ever had a pet/pets caught in a trap in Alaska? If so, please describe what happened.
Yes
No
Have you had a pet caught in a trap in Alaska? If so, please describe what happened.

Would you use a trail if you knew there were traps near that trail? (select all that apply):
Yes, Iím ok with traps placed within 50 yards from a trail I use
Yes, Iím ok with traps placed between 50-100 yards from a trail I use
Yes, Iím ok with traps placed between 100-150 yards from a trail I use
Yes, Iím ok with traps placed between 150-200 yards from a trail I use
No, I am not ok with traps placed closer than 200 yards from a trail I use
If you answered ďnoĒ to the above, is there a distance a trap could be from the trail that would allow you to feel comfortable using that trail? What would a comfortable trail set-back be?
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Last edited by drasselt; 01/17/21 02:53 PM.

you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: drasselt] #7141299
01/17/21 03:01 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if few of them even live there , or else only know the cities . Similar to the same ones here. Most of them don't live in the state and have sponsors outside the state. "Illegal aliens "....

Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: drasselt] #7141310
01/17/21 03:06 PM
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Yeah these people tried jumping in on a conversation in one of my neighborhood watch groups. Freaking no common sense.

Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: drasselt] #7141512
01/17/21 05:56 PM
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Did you ever get lost a on a trapper's trail?

Yes!

Did he maintain it to your standards?

No!

Did you ever use that trail again?

No!

Last edited by Dirt; 01/17/21 05:57 PM.

Who is John Galt?
Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: Dirt] #7142733
01/18/21 11:43 AM
01/18/21 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Did you ever get lost a on a trapper's trail?

Yes!

Did he maintain it to your standards?

No!

Did you ever use that trail again?

No!


Now THAT is some useful data right there.....! Good one Dirt!

Pete

Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: drasselt] #7142850
01/18/21 01:21 PM
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All they have to do is make up stuff.


My President is still President Trump
Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: drasselt] #7142874
01/18/21 01:33 PM
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Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: Bruce T] #7143240
01/18/21 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
All they have to do is make up stuff.


Exactly! And the really funny thing is the antis are calling this a "citizen science initiative". Junk science!


you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: drasselt] #7143366
01/18/21 05:53 PM
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Adfg is in bed with this group too!
I find this concerning as they bash trapping at their Adfg sponsored wildlife Wednesday seminars.
They are clearly antiwildlife, imo

Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: Pete in Frbks] #7143478
01/18/21 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete in Frbks
Originally Posted by Dirt
Did you ever get lost a on a trapper's trail?

Yes!

Did he maintain it to your standards?

No!

Did you ever use that trail again?

No!


Now THAT is some useful data right there.....! Good one Dirt!

Pete


Don't you miss your old friend Paul Joslin? And his side kick Karen Deathridge?
smile


Who is John Galt?
Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: drasselt] #7144601
01/19/21 11:41 AM
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Fairbanks, Alaska
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Dirt,

Yes, those were the days. Kneely carries the torch well for them though....!

Pete

Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: rosscoak] #7144622
01/19/21 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rosscoak
Adfg is in bed with this group too!
I find this concerning as they bash trapping at their Adfg sponsored wildlife Wednesday seminars.
They are clearly antiwildlife, imo

ADFG needs crisis to gather funding. Be it new ďinvasiveĒ species, ie. SEAK fisher, industrial development, ie. mining development to do broad studies on wolverine that chalk up to not much more than neat field trips. Now they are wrapped up in wolf studies. If it were not for the cries of the antiís ADFG would not have much of a leg to stand on for budget.

I apologize in advance for my rant.

Last edited by mad_mike; 01/19/21 12:28 PM. Reason: Removed Rosscoak from the intro.
Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: drasselt] #7144629
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Aaaaannnnd. I guarantee more of these hippie citizens commit more infractions daily throughout their daily lives than those of us involved in the outdoors.

Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: drasselt] #7144657
01/19/21 12:29 PM
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Not so sure ADF&G needs crisis. They got plenty to study just with managing regular hunting and trapping. I doubt budget is based on complainers/complaining. With plenty of PR funds nowadays, complainers may get a study here and there.
Used to go to Fur Ronny from Fbks. and do pro trapping gathering outside Sullivan I think. Wasn't Joslin a little professor that wandered around with an anti trapping sign?

Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: martentrapper] #7144662
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
Not so sure ADF&G needs crisis. They got plenty to study just with managing regular hunting and trapping. I doubt budget is based on complainers/complaining. With plenty of PR funds nowadays, complainers may get a study here and there.
Used to go to Fur Ronny from Fbks. and do pro trapping gathering outside Sullivan I think. Wasn't Joslin a little professor that wandered around with an anti trapping sign?

I guarantee they need conflict or special interest to gather grant money for studies to get them out of the office down here.
Well, actually, you might be partially correct. They have to seal a bunch of animals here that they do not bother with in most of the state. Gives them something to chat fireside about with their scones and tea. That has to add to their yearly duties.

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Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: rosscoak] #7144677
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Originally Posted by rosscoak
Adfg is in bed with this group too!
I find this concerning as they bash trapping at their Adfg sponsored wildlife Wednesday seminars.
They are clearly antiwildlife, imo


Did not know ADFG participated regularly. The one and only Wildlife Wednesday meeting I have looked into, ADFG did a trap demonstration/ how to release foot trap, snare, body grip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij6wZ6SDEV0&t=36s


you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: martentrapper] #7144679
01/19/21 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
Not so sure ADF&G needs crisis. They got plenty to study just with managing regular hunting and trapping. I doubt budget is based on complainers/complaining. With plenty of PR funds nowadays, complainers may get a study here and there.
Used to go to Fur Ronny from Fbks. and do pro trapping gathering outside Sullivan I think. Wasn't Joslin a little professor that wandered around with an anti trapping sign?


That was 30 years ago old man! That guy with the signs was not Joslin but I can't recall his name right off.


you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: drasselt] #7144887
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Originally Posted by drasselt
Originally Posted by rosscoak
Adfg is in bed with this group too!
I find this concerning as they bash trapping at their Adfg sponsored wildlife Wednesday seminars.
They are clearly antiwildlife, imo


Did not know ADFG participated regularly. The one and only Wildlife Wednesday meeting I have looked into, ADFG did a trap demonstration/ how to release foot trap, snare, body grip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij6wZ6SDEV0&t=36s


They have one online Zoom ON Feb 17. 7pm.
Adfg sport fish bios are talking about the east cook inlet razorclams

Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: drasselt] #7145726
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Who you calling old man, Tom? You were at those get together too!
The Sullivan was where the booths were in those days for people selling stuff. Lotsa rural residents selling fur stuff. The little guy was a UAA prof. and was gutsy enough to wander inside the arena with anti fur sign. !!

Re: Trappers Being Stalked/Map the Trap [Re: drasselt] #7146203
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