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keystone pipeline/jobs question #7148658
01/21/21 08:01 PM
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so yesterday with the stroke of a pen #46 killed the keystone pipeline. just curious what you guys think. how many people arent working today because of it? And how many of those not working are union guys who voted for #46?

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As I understand it 42,000 jobs were directly lost with a stroke of the pen... That's not counting those indirectly effected... Guys like me who make money installing/maintaining power, controls, and instrumentation at pipeline/oilfield facilities.

I'm sure I can move over to alternative/green energy projects... That I'll be paying for through increased taxes.

Hail to the thief.

Mike


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Re: keystone pipeline/jobs question [Re: trap master] #7148687
01/21/21 08:19 PM
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What is the big picture behind this?


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Re: keystone pipeline/jobs question [Re: trap master] #7148695
01/21/21 08:24 PM
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This is just the beginning
Our oil industry here has already been crippled since COVID started
And things like this are not going to help
We had over 100 employees where I work before COVID and now we’re down to around 30
Bad deal all around

Re: keystone pipeline/jobs question [Re: trap master] #7148716
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Seems they want to destroy the USA and what it stands for. They figured out if they say they are doing it for the environment most people are too ignorant to see the danger coming.

Re: keystone pipeline/jobs question [Re: trap master] #7148720
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Stopping the pipeline and other such energy projects will have many ripple effects. My son works as a Project Manager for a steel fabrication outfit. Much of what they do, as well as many of their various contractors, is connected to the pipelines, etc. He is very worried about the future of that whole industry.

He is very good at what he does, and he will find something of the whole mess goes down, but he has a young family, mortgage, and bills, and all the other expenses of a young family, so this may turn into a stressful time for him, and us.

Moosetrot

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Gas shot up 15 cents a gallon today!!! Way to go FEEBLE JOE!!

Re: keystone pipeline/jobs question [Re: trap master] #7148733
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I keep hearing unity unity, but all I see in the last two days is division and revenge actions.


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Re: keystone pipeline/jobs question [Re: Moosetrot] #7148739
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Originally Posted by Moosetrot
Stopping the pipeline and other such energy projects will have many ripple effects. My son works as a Project Manager for a steel fabrication outfit. Much of what they do, as well as many of their various contractors, is connected to the pipelines, etc. He is very worried about the future of that whole industry.

He is very good at what he does, and he will find something of the whole mess goes down, but he has a young family, mortgage, and bills, and all the other expenses of a young family, so this may turn into a stressful time for him, and us.

Moosetrot

Dave Ramsey. Get him started if not already.

Re: keystone pipeline/jobs question [Re: trap master] #7148747
01/21/21 08:57 PM
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3 years ago i spent the summer trucking for dakota access ... i made good money.... i was the black truck that delivered the new d8 to the protest site .. was on tv a few times... anyway .. last fall dacota access came through fixing any depressions in fields... and were talking to land owners saying the wanted to put another pipe beside existing plus xl pipeline wound have been a boom to s dakota economy... this administration not gonna happen... biden is great for telling lies to get re elected then flip when hes in office.... few months ago he stumped in pa and said dont worry about your coal and oill jobs !!
were doomed to be slaves of a socialist regime!!... if we survive the genocide !


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Re: keystone pipeline/jobs question [Re: trap master] #7148757
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There are unseen motives. It's not for the environment.

Instead of moving oil by pipeline, we'll burn thousands of gallons of fuel to move the oil by truck and rail. Better for the environment?

In reality, it probably does not effect jobs. Less pipeline jobs but more rail and trucking jobs. Still a stupid idea.

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-Ryan
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He is well-known and well-respected in the steel fabrication industry. He brought the world of CAD/laser projection into this area. He is also an accomplished blacksmith with a head for working metal. He is currently working on development of predator calls on his 3D printer at home. Plus, he's my kid so he will make it, but the initial aspects will be messy for him.

I DO like Dave Ramsey.

Moosetrot

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Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
There are unseen motives. It's not for the environment.

Instead of moving oil by pipeline, we'll burn thousands of gallons of fuel to move the oil by truck and rail. Better for the environment?

much better for his buddie warren buffet who owns the rr


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Re: keystone pipeline/jobs question [Re: Hydropillar] #7148769
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Originally Posted by Hydropillar
Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
There are unseen motives. It's not for the environment.

Instead of moving oil by pipeline, we'll burn thousands of gallons of fuel to move the oil by truck and rail. Better for the environment?

much better for his buddie warren buffet who owns the rr



Good point Hydro ! You're exactly right !


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Alaskan dingbat senator Lisa M didnt sound very happy today! What did she expect!!


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I hope she expects exile ! But she will change parties sometime between now and the 2022 election


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Re: keystone pipeline/jobs question [Re: trap master] #7148807
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I heard 11,000 oil industry jobs lost with that stroke of the pen.

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How about Canadian jobs ??


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Re: keystone pipeline/jobs question [Re: trap master] #7148848
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High school class mate was told to go home 30 minutes after the signing! He's been making more money than he ever has in his life. All the unions were for Biden even though they knew it would put their members out of work, just another reason i have no use for unions.

Trickle down effect will kill many more jobs at all the business's that supplied materials for the line as well, then of course those people not support local business's and on and on and on it goes. But the country wanted to go back to the Obama years of wars, famine and chaos.

Comrade Bidens dark winter begins.


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Re: keystone pipeline/jobs question [Re: trap master] #7148854
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I can here it now, "That will teach those fly over state, country bumpkin deplorables to elect someone we haven't approved."


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