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Re: unwanted plant/bush removal [Re: vermontster] #7148970
01/21/21 11:37 PM
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Round up + 1/10 diesel fuel takes out all the crap


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Re: unwanted plant/bush removal [Re: vermontster] #7185651
02/16/21 09:24 PM
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Has anyone been eradicating buckthorn this winter? I'm pretty sure garlon is design for +28°.


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Re: unwanted plant/bush removal [Re: vermontster] #7185676
02/16/21 09:35 PM
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It may be barberry, it's an ornamental that went wild. We have it down here I'm sure you probably have it up in that country. Birds love the seed and spread it like crazy

Re: unwanted plant/bush removal [Re: vermontster] #7185713
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For harder killing woody species I have considerable better luck spraying the whole plant than cutting and treating the stump. Treating the stump doesn't take as much chemical into the roots and some stubborn species regrow about a hundred shoots from the roots then it take years of spraying the shoots to get the roots killed. Just food for thought. And we spent a couple weeks each year spraying trees and brush.

Re: unwanted plant/bush removal [Re: Yes sir] #7185743
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
For harder killing woody species I have considerable better luck spraying the whole plant than cutting and treating the stump. Treating the stump doesn't take as much chemical into the roots and some stubborn species regrow about a hundred shoots from the roots then it take years of spraying the shoots to get the roots killed. Just food for thought. And we spent a couple weeks each year spraying trees and brush.

This has not been my experience. Are you treating the root collar too, because that is suggested with garlon. I cut stump garlon all the time for buckthorn and it's dead as dead. Much safer and less expensive than your method (not as fast though). It's important not to treat the stump in the spring when sap is flowing up.
I cut the stump very low to the ground.

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Re: unwanted plant/bush removal [Re: vermontster] #7186349
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Cut the bushes off slightly above ground and
Brush Tordon on where you cut the bush.
Roundup doesn't work on woody plants.
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Re: unwanted plant/bush removal [Re: vermontster] #7186404
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cut and apply glyphosate to the fresh stump.

Re: unwanted plant/bush removal [Re: AJE] #7186409
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Originally Posted by AJE
Originally Posted by Yes sir
For harder killing woody species I have considerable better luck spraying the whole plant than cutting and treating the stump. Treating the stump doesn't take as much chemical into the roots and some stubborn species regrow about a hundred shoots from the roots then it take years of spraying the shoots to get the roots killed. Just food for thought. And we spent a couple weeks each year spraying trees and brush.

This has not been my experience. Are you treating the root collar too, because that is suggested with garlon. I cut stump garlon all the time for buckthorn and it's dead as dead. Much safer and less expensive than your method (not as fast though). It's important not to treat the stump in the spring when sap is flowing up.
I cut the stump very low to the ground.

Maybe different species

Re: unwanted plant/bush removal [Re: countrygun] #7186516
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Originally Posted by countrygun
Prickly Ash bark has more value pound for pound than a coon hide. There is always a market for it.

Tell me where I can sell it. I'll be a millionaire!
Saying it has more value pound for pound than a coon hide doesn't make it worth much. grin


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Re: unwanted plant/bush removal [Re: Trapper7] #7186592
02/17/21 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
. Prickly Ash is much easier to kill than the buckthorn. Both are an unwanted invasive species.


Prickly Ash is not an invasive specie.

Its a native and atho you may not like its throns it does serve as host to 2 swallow tail butterflies.

Op's bush is Barberry.

Barberry and Honeysuckle are both Invasive non-natives.

Killing is best done by cutting down and treating stump with glyphosate.
I use an approx 25% glyphosate mix with water.
You have to treat right after cutting.
Honeysuckle is very sensitive to glyphosate.

Don't spray the foliage, you'll get drift and kill everything else that it lands on.

Always best to target unwanted plant only and use as little herbicide as possible while effectively killing only the unwanted plant..

Trouble with round up is the concentration levels are all over the place. Look at the ingredients, what's important is the percent of glyphosate in the mix.
If its less than what you want, say 25%, its a waste of time and money.

I buy Gordon's Big N' Tuf. Its a 41% glyphosate mix. Its much cheaper than Round-up.

Re: unwanted plant/bush removal [Re: Dirty D] #7187754
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Originally Posted by Dirty D
Originally Posted by Trapper7
. Prickly Ash is much easier to kill than the buckthorn. Both are an unwanted invasive species.


Prickly Ash is not an invasive specie.

Its a native and atho you may not like its throns it does serve as host to 2 swallow tail butterflies.

Op's bush is Barberry.

Barberry and Honeysuckle are both Invasive non-natives.

Killing is best done by cutting down and treating stump with glyphosate.
I use an approx 25% glyphosate mix with water.
You have to treat right after cutting.
Honeysuckle is very sensitive to glyphosate.

Don't spray the foliage, you'll get drift and kill everything else that it lands on.

Always best to target unwanted plant only and use as little herbicide as possible while effectively killing only the unwanted plant..

Trouble with round up is the concentration levels are all over the place. Look at the ingredients, what's important is the percent of glyphosate in the mix.
If its less than what you want, say 25%, its a waste of time and money.

I buy Gordon's Big N' Tuf. Its a 41% glyphosate mix. Its much cheaper than Round-up.






Round Up won't kill buckthorn and isn't very effective on prickly ash unless you use the concentrate undiluted. To kill both of these plants, I use Crossbow concentrate on the stumps. The swallow tails will have to find another host in my woods.


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