I wanted to set some coyote traps on a cleared pipeline, ground is way to rocky for an earth anchor. and I was going to try a tire set.

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Could work as a drag though I'd be leary of it breaking apart.

yes I was thinking of it as a drag, and I was going to use a shock spring in the setup. I thought about using premade drags, but I wouldn't want to be chasing through the woods and the heavier ones are really expensive.

I have several blind set locations on logging roads where I use concrete blocks and 6' of 1/8" cable. They don't get far and always wrap up around a tree. I leave the blocks there all year long.

Well If your going to make a tire set just anchor to the tire and use that as a drag.

I was fearful that would be too easy to pull, I guess I could use a large truck tire

A regular 16 or 18" truck tire with 8' chain between the tire and the trap will tire out a coyote In no time flat. If you think It's to lite just place a few rocks In side the tire.

You must have some bad arse coyotes if thay can pull a regular sized car tire.

Add some chain...about 8 or 10 feet.....coyote wont go anywhere.

That said....why not just make a dirthole or flat set instead of toting a tire to the location? Yall make this too hard on yourselves.

I would assume he can drive down the pipe line so It shouldn't be a problem hauling what ever he needs.
The tire can act as a drag and also a vocal point for what ever he's trapping.

I get that, but hauling a tire to the woods to trap coyotes......totally unnecessary.

Unless he just wants to be able to say, "Hey...I caught a coyote using a car tire!"

If they can bury a pipeline you likely can drive a rerod stake.

that's what folks been doing for years, with good results.

I have used tires as drags. We had so me old truck tires by a nursery for trees and noticed tracks around them. We started using them for sets. Dirt hole on outside edge of tire. The coyotes drag them a very short ways. Sometimes just a few feet. We just leave them there and use them yearly.

Putting rocks in them is a great idea.

Anything out of the ordinary has great "EYE Appeal" A lone fire blackened stump a lone Hay bale 30 yards Out In a bare field.

I started using concrete blocks with 8 feet of chain this year actually because I hate driving stakes and main rationale was if I hooked up with a lion I didn’t want to spend half a day trying to find it. Haven’t hooked a lion yet this year but when I have with regular drags they can haul a trap a long ways before they get tangled enough to pull out and then you are just looking for a trap somewhere, real pain in the butt to find. I just use a carabiner to connect the chain through one of the holes in the cinder block. The added weight would be an issue if you were setting a lot of traps but I just run a few sets on private land all season for something to keep me entertained and I plan on leaving the blocks out there from year to year. The coyotes don’t go more than 30 feet. I’ve been worried about the blocks crumbling apart and maybe i’ll have to replace them every few years but they are newer and still pretty solid. The old tire idea mentioned above seems better. I think either a block or a tire would add a curiosity draw for most critters.

Make your own concrete drags from 1 gallon milk containers. Buy some Redimix Sakreet or such at the local lumber yard and mix with water, cut top off milk jug, add some old chain , wire, nails etc. to minimize crack separation and don't worry about a block splitting.......................... my take.......... the mike

how do you attach?

A gallon jug of concrete seems like It might be a bit on the lite side for a drag. And the rounded surfaces would make It easier to drag.

But If you go that way just set a eye bolt In the concrete.

In stead of buying sakreet just go to some construction site or find some place where they are pouring concrete and you can get all you want for free.

Assumed in AR (and in most of WI) there are enough trees and brush to tangle a weighted drag with 8-10 of chain real quick so one milk jug should do. Here on the "converted Great Plains" (corn and soybean country), 30lbs. is about right, as when caught, coyotes always go down hill (least resistance). I always attach the weight to the rear of a metal two prong grapple to complete the set up and let gravity do its thing............ the mike....................P.S. Beav I am the only one living in this square mile and several square miles around me only have 0-1 families in them plus I am 18 miles from any sized town so am not very often near a concrete job so just suggesting a time saver for me. Tend to look at things from my biased view. Living near others does have its $ advantages sometimes.

do you think I could use cable to a concrete block?, I don't have much chain, but I have tons of cable for my conibears

Cable isn’t the best for drags but it’ll probably work..... Hard to bury/hide and It’ll get kinked up and be a mess after a catch. I’d rather get some affordable chain.

I have close to 100 concrete drags out and never bring them home. I have done enough projects pouring cement and always have left over. Prior to pouring you concrete for your project dig some holes for your drags one about the size and shape of a cow flop works for me. Pour left over mud into each hole and put in 6 inches of chain and let it set up. Take a quick link connect your trap and extra chain and your ready. You can make them different sizes depending on where you are going to use them. I have used them in light sage brush and they wont go far if you are in grass cover use a bigger hole and drag they wont pull them far. I turn them upside down dig a hole underneath like a mouse has been digging under a rock and bait the hole. Put some lure or urine on top and your done. Best thing is just leave them out a good locations they weather in but easy to find. I have even pre baited them to see where they are getting dug out.

Thanks for sharing
Mac

Good Idea.

I used to do same thing....I think there are still divots in my yard! Before I dump the concrete in the hand-dug hole, I threw leaves, sticks, stones, etc. in there to make it more natural looking. Probably not necessary, but I liked the way they looked.

Here's something I used to do as well as a way to make a lure or bait hole in the drag WITHOUT having to drill it after drying!

I took some pipe insulation, you know, the type with the split up one side so you can slide it over a pipe?

I cut it in 6-7 inch lengths.

I tied some string around it in three-four places to cinch it up tight and make a smaller over all size but tight so solid like one of those swimming pool floaties?

I'd cut a piece of #9 wire and shove it in the pipe insulator OR can can do this before tying it up tighter. Didn't seem to matter. The wire should be twice the length of the pipe insulation

Then, in the bottom on one of the sides of the hole I dug, I'd cram that exposed wire into the dirt picturing it being about halfway up the side of the drag when I was done. My hole is dug in a rounded fashion to make the drag look like a rock....so, the bottom of your hole will be the TOP of your drag....and the top of your hole flush with the ground will be the flat bottom of the rock-looking drag.

So, you slowly pour your wet concrete in the bottom making sure you don't bury the pipe insulation. Once cement is touching the insulation, pour slowly so as to not crush the insulation.

Once the insulation is covered fill hole to top and smooth it off. Oh, and I'd already put my anchor chain length in as well with maybe 6-9 inches sticking out of the bottom of the drag.

Once dry, you dig the pipe insulation out and have a ready made hole for your stink! The insulation creates a barrier for the concrete and when you dig it out, you have a nice deep narrow stink hole!

Later, I started using wood for the same thing and tried burning it out, but I didn't have as good of results with that as with the insulation.

When done, I had a rounded concrete drag that looked like a rock, had a rough natural appearance, had a ready-made hole for stink and chain sticking out the bottom to hook trap to. The drag was my backing and was my set. Easy Peezy.

I tried long chains and shorts chains.....they both work. A short chain seem counter-intuitive but you really hobble the coyote's pulling ability with that drag right at his back feet. He will turn and pull backwards, of course, but with a 30-40 lb drag, either way, he won't go far.

I trapped at a quarry starting 30 years ago and this place was my Heaven and my (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)......trapping there taught me to adapt, get more comfortable with both concrete AND steel drags and trap line dogs thereof. I don't trap there anymore due to insurance worries.....and 12-15 of these drags are still there. I used many of them on the ends of beaver slides and left them out in places as well.

In the end, I just don't use them anymore but WOULD with confidence if I had to......

Drilling concrete sucks.....and the above was thought up to avoid drilling AND to make the "rock" drag my backing as well.

MZ

If you use a really heavy concert drag use a short chain if not you can get pull outs.