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concrete block for coyote anchor? #7164877 02/01/21 09:25 AM 02/01/21 09:25 AM
Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 309 AR B bigfoottrapper OP trapper
bigfoottrapper OP trapper B Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 309 AR	I wanted to set some coyote traps on a cleared pipeline, ground is way to rocky for an earth anchor. and I was going to try a tire set. thanks Last edited by bigfoottrapper; 02/01/21 09:27 AM.

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7164891 02/01/21 09:33 AM 02/01/21 09:33 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,608 Rodney,Ohio SNIPERBBB trapper
SNIPERBBB trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,608 Rodney,Ohio	Could work as a drag though I'd be leary of it breaking apart. http://www.sniperstrappingplace.com/tmansearch.php

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7164899 02/01/21 09:43 AM 02/01/21 09:43 AM
Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 309 AR B bigfoottrapper OP trapper
bigfoottrapper OP trapper B Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 309 AR	yes I was thinking of it as a drag, and I was going to use a shock spring in the setup. I thought about using premade drags, but I wouldn't want to be chasing through the woods and the heavier ones are really expensive.

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7164903 02/01/21 09:46 AM 02/01/21 09:46 AM
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 574 Communist State Of New York Archeryguy trapper
Archeryguy trapper Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 574 Communist State Of New York	I have several blind set locations on logging roads where I use concrete blocks and 6' of 1/8" cable. They don't get far and always wrap up around a tree. I leave the blocks there all year long.

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7164927 02/01/21 10:15 AM 02/01/21 10:15 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,824 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,824 Wisconsin	Well If your going to make a tire set just anchor to the tire and use that as a drag. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: The Beav] #7164940 02/01/21 10:25 AM 02/01/21 10:25 AM
Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 309 AR B bigfoottrapper OP trapper
bigfoottrapper OP trapper B Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 309 AR	Originally Posted by The Beav Well If your going to make a tire set just anchor to the tire and use that as a drag. I was fearful that would be too easy to pull, I guess I could use a large truck tire

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7164970 02/01/21 10:57 AM 02/01/21 10:57 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,824 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,824 Wisconsin	A regular 16 or 18" truck tire with 8' chain between the tire and the trap will tire out a coyote In no time flat. If you think It's to lite just place a few rocks In side the tire. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7165024 02/01/21 11:41 AM 02/01/21 11:41 AM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 12,271 South Ga - Almost Florida S Swamp Wolf trapper
Swamp Wolf trapper S Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 12,271 South Ga - Almost Florida	Originally Posted by bigfoottrapper Originally Posted by The Beav Well If your going to make a tire set just anchor to the tire and use that as a drag. I was fearful that would be too easy to pull, I guess I could use a large truck tire You must have some bad arse coyotes if thay can pull a regular sized car tire. Add some chain...about 8 or 10 feet.....coyote wont go anywhere. That said....why not just make a dirthole or flat set instead of toting a tire to the location? Yall make this too hard on yourselves. Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything! Resource Protection Service

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7165072 02/01/21 12:35 PM 02/01/21 12:35 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,824 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,824 Wisconsin	I would assume he can drive down the pipe line so It shouldn't be a problem hauling what ever he needs. The tire can act as a drag and also a vocal point for what ever he's trapping. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: The Beav] #7165143 02/01/21 01:34 PM 02/01/21 01:34 PM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 12,271 South Ga - Almost Florida S Swamp Wolf trapper
Swamp Wolf trapper S Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 12,271 South Ga - Almost Florida	Originally Posted by The Beav I would assume he can drive down the pipe line so It shouldn't be a problem hauling what ever he needs. The tire can act as a drag and also a vocal point for what ever he's trapping. I get that, but hauling a tire to the woods to trap coyotes......totally unnecessary. Unless he just wants to be able to say, "Hey...I caught a coyote using a car tire!" Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything! Resource Protection Service

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7165160 02/01/21 01:48 PM 02/01/21 01:48 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,414 Idaho Falls, Idaho F Furvor trapper
Furvor trapper F Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,414 Idaho Falls, Idaho	If they can bury a pipeline you likely can drive a rerod stake. Last edited by Furvor; 02/01/21 06:34 PM.

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: The Beav] #7165161 02/01/21 01:48 PM 02/01/21 01:48 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,165 Central NC T traprjohn trapper
traprjohn trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,165 Central NC	Originally Posted by The Beav Well If your going to make a tire set just anchor to the tire and use that as a drag. that's what folks been doing for years, with good results. www.sevenoakstrappingsupplies.com for trap mods and gear The 10 Commandments are not suggestions. Buy a soldiers meal EVERY chance you can.

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7165205 02/01/21 02:30 PM 02/01/21 02:30 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 2,626 Flint, Michigan bhugo trapper
bhugo trapper Joined: May 2007 Posts: 2,626 Flint, Michigan	I have used tires as drags. We had so me old truck tires by a nursery for trees and noticed tracks around them. We started using them for sets. Dirt hole on outside edge of tire. The coyotes drag them a very short ways. Sometimes just a few feet. We just leave them there and use them yearly. Putting rocks in them is a great idea. Member MTPCA, FTA and NTA

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7165261 02/01/21 04:00 PM 02/01/21 04:00 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,824 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,824 Wisconsin	Anything out of the ordinary has great "EYE Appeal" A lone fire blackened stump a lone Hay bale 30 yards Out In a bare field. Last edited by The Beav; 02/01/21 04:02 PM. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7166305 02/02/21 02:36 PM 02/02/21 02:36 PM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 298 Oregon R RockCrick trapper
RockCrick trapper R Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 298 Oregon	I started using concrete blocks with 8 feet of chain this year actually because I hate driving stakes and main rationale was if I hooked up with a lion I didn’t want to spend half a day trying to find it. Haven’t hooked a lion yet this year but when I have with regular drags they can haul a trap a long ways before they get tangled enough to pull out and then you are just looking for a trap somewhere, real pain in the butt to find. I just use a carabiner to connect the chain through one of the holes in the cinder block. The added weight would be an issue if you were setting a lot of traps but I just run a few sets on private land all season for something to keep me entertained and I plan on leaving the blocks out there from year to year. The coyotes don’t go more than 30 feet. I’ve been worried about the blocks crumbling apart and maybe i’ll have to replace them every few years but they are newer and still pretty solid. The old tire idea mentioned above seems better. I think either a block or a tire would add a curiosity draw for most critters.

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7167143 02/03/21 08:28 AM 02/03/21 08:28 AM
Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 834 NE NE W Wife trapper
Wife trapper W Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 834 NE NE	Make your own concrete drags from 1 gallon milk containers. Buy some Redimix Sakreet or such at the local lumber yard and mix with water, cut top off milk jug, add some old chain , wire, nails etc. to minimize crack separation and don't worry about a block splitting.......................... my take.......... the mike

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: Wife] #7167166 02/03/21 08:48 AM 02/03/21 08:48 AM
Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 309 AR B bigfoottrapper OP trapper
bigfoottrapper OP trapper B Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 309 AR	Originally Posted by Wife Make your own concrete drags from 1 gallon milk containers. Buy some Redimix Sakreet or such at the local lumber yard and mix with water, cut top off milk jug, add some old chain , wire, nails etc. to minimize crack separation and don't worry about a block splitting.......................... my take.......... the mike how do you attach?

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7167261 02/03/21 10:02 AM 02/03/21 10:02 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,824 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,824 Wisconsin	A gallon jug of concrete seems like It might be a bit on the lite side for a drag. And the rounded surfaces would make It easier to drag. But If you go that way just set a eye bolt In the concrete. In stead of buying sakreet just go to some construction site or find some place where they are pouring concrete and you can get all you want for free. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7168631 02/04/21 08:17 AM 02/04/21 08:17 AM
Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 834 NE NE W Wife trapper
Wife trapper W Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 834 NE NE	Assumed in AR (and in most of WI) there are enough trees and brush to tangle a weighted drag with 8-10 of chain real quick so one milk jug should do. Here on the "converted Great Plains" (corn and soybean country), 30lbs. is about right, as when caught, coyotes always go down hill (least resistance). I always attach the weight to the rear of a metal two prong grapple to complete the set up and let gravity do its thing............ the mike....................P.S. Beav I am the only one living in this square mile and several square miles around me only have 0-1 families in them plus I am 18 miles from any sized town so am not very often near a concrete job so just suggesting a time saver for me. Tend to look at things from my biased view. Living near others does have its $ advantages sometimes.

Re: concrete block for coyote anchor? [Re: RockCrick] #7172354 02/07/21 09:27 AM 02/07/21 09:27 AM
Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 309 AR B bigfoottrapper OP trapper
bigfoottrapper OP trapper B Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 309 AR	Originally Posted by RockCrick I started using concrete blocks with 8 feet of chain this year actually because I hate driving stakes and main rationale was if I hooked up with a lion I didn’t want to spend half a day trying to find it. Haven’t hooked a lion yet this year but when I have with regular drags they can haul a trap a long ways before they get tangled enough to pull out and then you are just looking for a trap somewhere, real pain in the butt to find. I just use a carabiner to connect the chain through one of the holes in the cinder block. The added weight would be an issue if you were setting a lot of traps but I just run a few sets on private land all season for something to keep me entertained and I plan on leaving the blocks out there from year to year. The coyotes don’t go more than 30 feet. I’ve been worried about the blocks crumbling apart and maybe i’ll have to replace them every few years but they are newer and still pretty solid. The old tire idea mentioned above seems better. I think either a block or a tire would add a curiosity draw for most critters. do you think I could use cable to a concrete block?, I don't have much chain, but I have tons of cable for my conibears

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