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Re: Anchor attachment [Re: Treed1tm] #6275331
07/09/18 05:25 AM
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There are many preferences on how to connect hardware. Try a few different connections to see what works best for you.

I like the versatility of being able to easily and securely switch my anchoring system between finned super stakes on chain, or a reusable cable stake with a chain top section, or a planned disposable cable stake, or a butterfly for double staking with rebar. The quick link makes this easy and a secure switch.

I prefer to use quick link exactly like Taximan does it, or to connect directly from straight link chain to the straight link chain. It depends upon if anything is damaged. I run all of my crunch proof swivels the same way for this purpose.

Even though it eliminates one swivel point, at the quick link connection I prefer one less J hook connector wherever possible - one less potential for failure. I might think differently if I welded my J hooks.

Also, for me, I don’t get good movement and swivel action squeezing a J hook around a quick link. And they then are impossible to remove without ruining the J hook and sometimes the quick link. Others may have different experiences. It looks like RHuff has that issue worked out in one of his photos.

I use cable thimbles when I plan on reusing something. Such as cable slides for beavers or heavy cable stakes with chain top section.

And I heartily agree to tool tighten every quick link. A wrench or pliers and a screwdriver lock them down.

Treed - after you work out your connection system, you may wish to experiment with pre-drilling for the various anchors and stakes. Taximan is the expert and got me hooked on it. I pre-drill in warm weather with long ship auger bits and cold weather frozen ground with long carbide masonry bits. It is easier and reduces aching wrist and shoulder joints. I get cheap ship auger bits at Harbor freight. For frozen ground It takes better quality to hold up so I use Bosch bits. All powered with a Milwaukee 18 volt cordless 1/2” variable speed reversible hammer drill. I use the same drill to power a 2” auger bit for dirt holes in warm weather and in frozen ground a 1” carbide bit to grind out trap beds. The side handle helps to control the torque and reduce strain.


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Re: Anchor attachment [Re: Willy Firewood] #6275396
07/09/18 08:07 AM
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I have seen where folks pre drill in ice but have never thought about drilling in clay will look into it, are you able to pull the wolf fangs , I have a cable hooked to the end of my super stakes for pulling them some times it works sometimes I am digging just looking into different options.

Re: Anchor attachment [Re: Treed1tm] #6275445
07/09/18 09:37 AM
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I use the finned super stakes on chain and deal with lots of clay. I too am a fan of pre drilling for them as I make the set. Also a fan of the retrieval cable. I run the Conner shock spring on all my canine traps and connect everything with the #6 J hooks that are not welded. Not dealing with anything bigger than eastern coyotes but do not reuse a J hook. If I open it, I replace it.


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Re: Anchor attachment [Re: Treed1tm] #6275510
07/09/18 12:04 PM
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For me,very hard ground is time for stakes.They are easier to get in and far easier to pull.You can also predrill for them if you need to.I use stakes,anchors,extension chains,cables and long chains with drags.Whichever one I use,there is a specific reason why that spot calls for it.

Re: Anchor attachment [Re: Treed1tm] #6275517
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Treed - it is effective to use a 2” auger bit to drill alongside the chain or cable to drill out or drill free the chained super stake. Sometimes pulling can be hard on gear in tough soil.

Last edited by Willy Firewood; 07/10/18 03:04 AM. Reason: Corrected a typo

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Re: Anchor attachment [Re: Treed1tm] #6275662
07/09/18 05:47 PM
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Thanks for all the info. a lot to adsorb have taken in all the suggestions and like many of you said it is going to be a matter of what works best for me . And I feel sure y'all will be hearing from me some more on here all is greatly appreciated.

Re: Anchor attachment [Re: Treed1tm] #6276367
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1/4" quick snap (carabiner) connects trap chain to cable or drag chain.....if it's good enough for Clint Locklear, it'll be fine for lil ole me.


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Re: Anchor attachment [Re: Treed1tm] #6276393
07/10/18 04:28 PM
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My dog has twisted off it's chain attached to a carabiner. I wouldn't trust one on the trapline.


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Re: Anchor attachment [Re: Taximan] #7181421
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Taximan how do you get the the thimbles in the Wolf Fangs?!

Re: Anchor attachment [Re: Treed1tm] #7181484
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I agree with Quiet about the J hooks. They are one use only. If I open one it gets replaced. I wish that I could weld well enough to permanently weld some J hooks.

I also agree completely with Ditchdiver about the carabiners. The type and quality sold for trapping use is not sturdy or durable enough in my opinion. I need and want connections that will hold up 100% even in some extreme or unusual situation that can arise.

When pulling gear it is wise ro be cautious to not pull above J hooks and chain repair links. Pulling below them prevents worry about a strain failure. The J hooks come already welded on my finned super stakes on chain.

Several guys make good lever type pullers. I like pullers made by Tom Stalker and JC Connor. We are fortunate to have very skilled and talented people making very specialized hardware and tools for trapping.


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Re: Anchor attachment [Re: w8n4rut] #7181638
02/14/21 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by w8n4rut
I use a 3/16 quick link.


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Re: Anchor attachment [Re: Treed1tm] #7182450
02/14/21 08:45 PM
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If you're running a couple dozen or so traps with plenty of time to do so then digging the anchors up for reuse is the way to go. Use chained superstakes attached with a 3/16" QL.

If you're running 100 plus traps: digging them up is a back-breaking option. Make 15" cable pogos with 2" washers. They're cheap enough to make...like 30 cents each. Attach with same QL. Cut them on pull day. Attach another on set day. Your back and your watch will love you for it.


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