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Vertical drowning rod feedback #7184108
02/15/21 10:54 PM
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Ok, who has been messing with this enough to give good feedback?

Basically a long stake with a drowning lock on it. Attach your foothold or snare to the lock, set however needed, and when a catch is made, the beaver and lock head to the bottom of the rod and can't get back up to the surface. Like a snare set or a rat stool, only for beavers?

I have a.location that is begging for this set up, but I have zero confidence in just winging it and hoping it works...

Any input?



Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7184123
02/15/21 11:07 PM
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Works good. Just make sure the end of the drowning rod is stuck In The bottom and your drowning lock is on correct

Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7184142
02/15/21 11:27 PM
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I made a couple of these a while back. Used 1/2" rebar @ 5 foot lengths. Welded #9 wire <-shaped piece about a foot from bottom to keep it from spinning and help hold from beaver pulling up. Also wrapped and welded #9 wire near top for snare support. Put drowner slide on rebar b4 welding. Used these about 3 times and have caught beaver every time. I dipped these in brown F1...perfect od green color. Gonna make several more. Need about a dozen for beaver work I do.

These could be set up from a boat but Ive set them each time wearing chest waders. Pulling them from a boat might not be easy.

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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7184187
02/16/21 12:03 AM
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Very cool. Just a snare hooked on and lure on the stake/rod top to have them swimming around? Seems almost too good to be true. Got a job on a large flow and the water is deep, but the bottom is good for this type stake. I'm anxious to play a little cuz the job doesn't pay that good.



Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7184272
02/16/21 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Carolina Foxer
Very cool. Just a snare hooked on and lure on the stake/rod top to have them swimming around? Seems almost too good to be true. Got a job on a large flow and the water is deep, but the bottom is good for this type stake. I'm anxious to play a little cuz the job doesn't pay that good.

Ive used them 2 ways: I staked them in a deep run that had a pinch point with snare 2/3 submerged.

I also wired a small piece of foam rubber near top of stake(above where the support wire is welded on amd above the water a few inches). I put lure on the foam rubber.

Caught beaver both ways..


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7184703
02/16/21 12:00 PM
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They can work well as long as it’s done right. Only use snares that are as long as they have to be and that’s it. Having a little too much cable will allow beavers to surface and get air. This can lead to a rodeo trying to dispatch a beaver that can dive 4 feet deep and runs the risk of having a beaver latch onto your wader boot. I’ve been there.



I much rather use a setup that relies on entanglement. A true beaver KP works well and can be used in shallower water than what’s required for a sliding lock setup.


5 ft rebar, nut or washer welded near the top for securing snare, crosspiece welded midway for entanglement, and a nut or washer a foot from the bottom covers it all—-snare anchor point, entanglement, and a way to use the setup as a deep water stake. You can use 1 KP and 1 stake to make 2 sets—- the KP snare and a submersion castor set on the shoreline. A handle near the top makes removal easier.

Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7184771
02/16/21 12:49 PM
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I'm not sure everyone here is taking about the same type of set up. The OP said vertical, meaning the rod is stuck in straight up and down in open water with snare hung off the sides of it like an under ice beaver set up with a green stick. Some of the answers make me think you are talking about traditional drowning rods with one end on the bank and the other stuck in the bottom in deep water with a snare attached. I may be the one who is confused though. ???

Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7184811
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So to use a VERTICAL drowning system your going to need DEEP water right next to where your trap has been placed.


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: The Beav] #7185008
02/16/21 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
So to use a VERTICAL drowning system your going to need DEEP water right next to where your trap has been placed.



Correct. Deep water and a very short snare. If I ever build anymore vertical submersion rods again, I’m going to build them longer. Probably 6, maybe as long as 8 ft. I’ll also put a handle near the top for retrieving it. In my opinion, this type of setup is best used out of a boat.

Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7185042
02/16/21 03:35 PM
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Something like this is what I'm envisioning...

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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7185076
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I can see this being more practical when using foot holds.


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7185078
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Very cool idea.

If you had a weight that was attached to the cable, and was hanging off the rebar on a heavy wire hook wrapped around the rebar about 3’ up from the bottom, so the weight would get pulled off easily, it would keep the beaver under more easily.


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: MNEric] #7185202
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Originally Posted by MNEric
Works good. Just make sure the end of the drowning rod is stuck In The bottom


not needed if ya slide about 35+ lbs weight down the rod.
I had a steep 3' bank they were using that dropped into 20+ ft of water.
I added about 35-40 lbs weight to the end of my drowning rod, then slide the rod into to water, DOUBLE staked it, then hung my 30" beaver snare and attached it to the slide lock. Worked like a charm.


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7185256
02/16/21 06:12 PM
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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: ~ADC~] #7185385
02/16/21 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Something like this is what I'm envisioning...

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Yes^^^ this is what I was describing. Except 1 snare on ones Ive made....so far.


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: The Beav] #7185388
02/16/21 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
I can see this being more practical when using foot holds.

Seems to work well with snares. I havent used it enough yet, but have caught beavers. I have not tried to set this up from a boat...without getting out of boat. That could be a bit difficult to ensure proper anchoring.


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Aix sponsa] #7185390
02/16/21 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Aix sponsa
Originally Posted by The Beav
So to use a VERTICAL drowning system your going to need DEEP water right next to where your trap has been placed.



Correct. Deep water and a very short snare. If I ever build anymore vertical submersion rods again, I’m going to build them longer. Probably 6, maybe as long as 8 ft. I’ll also put a handle near the top for retrieving it. In my opinion, this type of setup is best used out of a boat.

Me too on extending the length. Great idea on the handle.


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: bhugo] #7185395
02/16/21 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bhugo
Very cool idea.

If you had a weight that was attached to the cable, and was hanging off the rebar on a heavy wire hook wrapped around the rebar about 3’ up from the bottom, so the weight would get pulled off easily, it would keep the beaver under more easily.

Yep^^


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: traprjohn] #7185396
02/16/21 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by traprjohn
Originally Posted by MNEric
Works good. Just make sure the end of the drowning rod is stuck In The bottom


not needed if ya slide about 35+ lbs weight down the rod.
I had a steep 3' bank they were using that dropped into 20+ ft of water.
I added about 35-40 lbs weight to the end of my drowning rod, then slide the rod into to water, DOUBLE staked it, then hung my 30" beaver snare and attached it to the slide lock. Worked like a charm.



How did you double stake a vertical rod?


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Re: Vertical drowning rod feedback [Re: Carolina Foxer] #7185781
02/17/21 12:23 AM
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I would think attaching a length or two of fresh popular to the pole above water could really add to such a set. Right at snare so as the approach to chew at water line the swim into snare.


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