Erasing tracks in the snow. . .
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02/22/21 07:57 PM
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LT GREY
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Are trappers kidding me that they don't know how to 'erase' their own foot prints in the snow ? I've been using a very simple trick for thirty years and that is to drag something that weighs at least (or about ) twenty pounds or more behind you... and the deeper the snow, the better ! A two year old beaver is about perfect,( or perfect size, weight and shape) but I don't expect you to dragging a frozen beaver all over tar-nation, but I've done it with a slightly damage one. Take a double strand of bailing ( the plastic kind ) loop it around the tail and drag it behind you. An old coyote , (and I always get a 'bad' one) loop right around the neck and drag it behind you. It will leave a smooth, clean path, that coyotes and foxes will follow. Don't have either ? Use a canvas military bag with two to three gallon milk jugs filled with water. It will freeze, when left outside overnight. String around the handle and drag it behind you. Smoothest, prettiest path you've ever seen ! Deeper the snow, the better ! Whatever you drag, (within reason) will glide with ease. I quite often 'drag' in bait and yes, it will erase those tracks too, along with laying down a scent trail for a canine, wolverine or any other predator to follow. Light snow overnight ? Oh, will it get any better than that !? Wind ? Same thing . Tracks are gone and that path, much like a vehicle or snow mobile track will be followed by the animals in the area. When checking snares on foot, I drag it right up to the snare, step over, turn and pull whatever it is I'm pulling, right under the snare and continue on. Try this very simple trick and you will love the results. * The following photo is of a student dragging in bait and while it is NOT the best representation of this trick, it will give you the basic idea * ( I'll search for a better photo) ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2021/02/full-3686-87061-1127.jpg)
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Re: Erasing tracks in the snow. . .
[Re: LT GREY]
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02/22/21 08:01 PM
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Re: Erasing tracks in the snow. . .
[Re: LT GREY]
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02/22/21 09:04 PM
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Thank you LT Gray. The dragging of the bait has another effect as well some pieces may fall of the big piece leaving them in the snow for the coyote or animal to follow the scent and small pieces into the bait pile.
“We will visit the Holy Land and see those places hallowed by the footsteps of the Savior,” -Lincoln
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Re: Erasing tracks in the snow. . .
[Re: LT GREY]
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02/22/21 10:17 PM
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That simple trick has allowed me to trap and snare in the snow and keep making some pretty decent catches while a good many trappers are sitting at home by the fire ! ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2021/02/full-3686-87065-coyote_trapper_091.jpg) You call that snow? Try and walk through 2 feet of snow dragging that carcass. LOL
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Re: Erasing tracks in the snow. . .
[Re: LT GREY]
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02/23/21 12:16 AM
02/23/21 12:16 AM
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Lol you guys crack me up sometimes. That might work in an open cut corn field, but here in the bush you won’t make it past the tree line.
We put drags on traps to prevent the animal from getting away. No sense putting a drag on myself while checking 300 snares.
Fail!
Last edited by Jurassic Park; 02/23/21 12:16 AM.
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Re: Erasing tracks in the snow. . .
[Re: Jurassic Park]
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02/23/21 06:46 AM
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Good share LT.
"So y’all’s critters can tell human tracks and avoid them?" You may be able to get away with tracking up in some areas but most cannot.
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Re: Erasing tracks in the snow. . .
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02/23/21 09:06 AM
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Is covering up the tracks really that important? This year I had fresh fox and coyote tracks along and inside my tracks on several mornings. All depends on coyote population and pressure. In my area they are hunted all year. And trapped hard. Pressure is high and numbers are low so they turn inside out to get away from human tracks or tire tracks. Snow does not lie. Just my observations from my area. Everywhere is different
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Re: Erasing tracks in the snow. . .
[Re: LT GREY]
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02/23/21 09:17 AM
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I do not worry about animals seeing my tracks, but if I am setting snow sets in deeper snow, I’ll stay out of their trail so I can set a blind set under one of their tracks. This is just so they will only have their own tracks to step in when they come through again. I do erase my steps somewhat with a spruce bough right by a blind set and just where I left their trail, again just to keep their attention on their own tracks so they don’t follow me.
If I catch one in a blind trail set, I usually reset with lure on a post in the same spot. I don’t worry about tracks at all at that point.
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Re: Erasing tracks in the snow. . .
[Re: LT GREY]
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02/23/21 09:20 AM
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Are trappers kidding me that they don't know how to 'erase' their own foot prints in the snow ? I've been using a very simple trick for thirty years and that is to drag something that weighs at least (or about ) twenty pounds or more behind you... and the deeper the snow, the better ! A two year old beaver is about perfect,( or perfect size, weight and shape) but I don't expect you to dragging a frozen beaver all over tar-nation, but I've done it with a slightly damage one. Take a double strand of bailing ( the plastic kind ) loop it around the tail and drag it behind you. An old coyote , (and I always get a 'bad' one) loop right around the neck and drag it behind you. It will leave a smooth, clean path, that coyotes and foxes will follow. Don't have either ? Use a canvas military bag with two to three gallon milk jugs filled with water. It will freeze, when left outside overnight. String around the handle and drag it behind you. Smoothest, prettiest path you've ever seen ! Deeper the snow, the better ! Whatever you drag, (within reason) will glide with ease. I quite often 'drag' in bait and yes, it will erase those tracks too, along with laying down a scent trail for a canine, wolverine or any other predator to follow. Light snow overnight ? Oh, will it get any better than that !? Wind ? Same thing . Tracks are gone and that path, much like a vehicle or snow mobile track will be followed by the animals in the area. When checking snares on foot, I drag it right up to the snare, step over, turn and pull whatever it is I'm pulling, right under the snare and continue on. Try this very simple trick and you will love the results. * The following photo is of a student dragging in bait and while it is NOT the best representation of this trick, it will give you the basic idea * ( I'll search for a better photo) ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2021/02/full-3686-87061-1127.jpg) Cool way to set a scent trail!
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Re: Erasing tracks in the snow. . .
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02/23/21 11:16 AM
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I've seen the about face skit addle, I've also seen it without snow on the ground. Deer too. I'm not going to drag dead stuff while walking. With the truck though...
Glad to see trapping talk on t-man.
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Re: Erasing tracks in the snow. . .
[Re: The Beav]
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02/23/21 04:50 PM
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[quote=The Beav][quote=LT GREY] That simple trick has allowed me to trap and snare in the snow and keep making some pretty decent catches while a good many trappers are sitting at home by the fire ! You call that snow? Try and walk through 2 feet of snow dragging that carcass. LOL [/quotep In two foot of snow, I'd be running sets differently, because animal movement would be different. . . That said, the photo was taken on a gravel lane that had been snow plowed. It's a lane, not a set location. The snow in the background is 11 inches deep And I snare in the brush too, more often than not. I make adjustments and adapt if the snow is deeper or the brush is harder to travel in. Yet, if a coyote goes in it, I'll go in after it !
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Re: Erasing tracks in the snow. . .
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02/24/21 01:52 AM
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Interesting thread. My 2 cents
I snare in snow usually for 90% of the season. I catch a few coyotes. Most of the snow is a foot or deeper. Right now the snow is up to my waist in some of the snare sites. Roughly 1/2 the season is soft snow then when the wind blows it gets hard as concrete.
I will drag bait into a bait site but that’s as far as it goes. In deeper snow coyotes/ foxes will follow the least path of resistance. They have no problem following foot , skidoo, truck, quad, deer paths ect. I’ve put snares on most of them(stay off deer trails)and caught coyotes. I don’t get a lot of pressure on my line so it might be different with places where coyotes are pressured a lot more.
It’s an average temp of -15 to -25 where I trap. The colder it is the more the coyotes will move. I set snares bare handed. I do not worry about my scent. Don’t worry, if you were there the coyotes know you were there. In colder temperatures I don’t think scent matters as much as most people think, but I guess that depends on how bad they are pressured.
I can set a snare on a foot path through the trees and it’s not uncommon to have a coyote in the snare the next check. Run a skidoo path through deep snow and you will have a coyote highway on it the next check, easy snare trail.
Coyotes are 85/10/5. 85% are easy to catch, 10% are smart but a little work and you can catch them, 5% are the exception. The 5% you have to work your tail off to get. They are smart and will take something they haven’t seen before to get them but you can.
Do I want to catch them all? NO I trap for fur to sell. I want the 85% easy ones. Every one traps for different reasons. Different areas have different exceptions. Use what works best for you. Your area could be 60/30/10. I just put numbers to where I trap. Are they correct? Maybe or maybe not. Just an estimate from my experience.
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Re: Erasing tracks in the snow. . .
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02/24/21 06:33 AM
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Again, good stuff guys. Thanks for posting LT. Interesting Saskbone. What is the yearly harvest for all of Sakatchewan area? thanks for posting Jumperezee, interesting stuff It is interesting to hear what it is like in different areas.
Mac
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