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Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7192741 02/22/21 09:19 PM 02/22/21 09:19 PM
Joined: Dec 2020 NM D dedshaut OP trapper
dedshaut OP trapper D Joined: Dec 2020 NM	Those pics of the double rear foot are crazy, how the heck..

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7192843 02/22/21 10:35 PM 02/22/21 10:35 PM
Joined: Nov 2017 NC W wrh1971 trapper
wrh1971 trapper W Joined: Nov 2017 NC	i caught a possum by the tail in a tire set. haven't used a tire set since

Re: First double foot catch [Re: wrh1971] #7193215 02/23/21 10:52 AM 02/23/21 10:52 AM
Joined: Dec 2020 NM D dedshaut OP trapper
dedshaut OP trapper D Joined: Dec 2020 NM	Originally Posted by wrh1971 i caught a possum by the tail in a tire set. haven't used a tire set since That's nuts! how the heck, maybe it was able to pull its small feet out? No clue.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7193272 02/23/21 11:55 AM 02/23/21 11:55 AM
Joined: Apr 2016 Northern Nevada O Old coy trapper
Old coy trapper O Joined: Apr 2016 Northern Nevada	I’m thinking of two possibilities. First one - the coyote had a foot on each side of the trap on the lever/jaw junction. When the trap fired his feet rode the levers up enough to only catch the toes. Second one - his feet were on the free jaw and when fired the trap only caught the toes.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7193431 02/23/21 02:59 PM 02/23/21 02:59 PM
Joined: Aug 2015 NE NE W Wife trapper
Wife trapper W Joined: Aug 2015 NE NE	Here's my hunch. Both feet were just inside the jaws but close to, if not directly over the fulcrum (balancing point of the "teeter totter'),,,,, the lever ( trap pan) of your "totter" starts at the hold down point of the jaw and extends out into the center of the base and continues to the end of the pan closest to the loose jaw ,,,,,,,,with a pan tension of whatever poundage you set, you are increasing (over gravity) the amount of weight it will take to have the lever (pan) lift the short end of the "totter" and release the/or spring the trap. Now with all that said I hunch that the coyote shifted its weight ever so slightly toward the long side of the "teeter totter" enough to compensate for your added pan tension and the jaws were faster than the coyote's reaction time so he took a ride home with you. Isn't that what pan tension is supposed to do by allowing smaller weighted creatures to wrestle on top of the lever (pan) and NOT spring the trap. Not every animal step is exacting the same weight on the soil beneath it, so when you reach the "straw" that exceeds the camel's carrying capacity, it breaks or in this case it fires the trap........................................... my take .... the mike

Re: First double foot catch [Re: Wife] #7193649 02/23/21 06:13 PM 02/23/21 06:13 PM
Joined: Dec 2020 NM D dedshaut OP trapper
dedshaut OP trapper D Joined: Dec 2020 NM	Originally Posted by Wife Here's my hunch. Both feet were just inside the jaws but close to, if not directly over the fulcrum (balancing point of the "teeter totter'),,,,, the lever ( trap pan) of your "totter" starts at the hold down point of the jaw and extends out into the center of the base and continues to the end of the pan closest to the loose jaw ,,,,,,,,with a pan tension of whatever poundage you set, you are increasing (over gravity) the amount of weight it will take to have the lever (pan) lift the short end of the "totter" and release the/or spring the trap. Now with all that said I hunch that the coyote shifted its weight ever so slightly toward the long side of the "teeter totter" enough to compensate for your added pan tension and the jaws were faster than the coyote's reaction time so he took a ride home with you. Isn't that what pan tension is supposed to do by allowing smaller weighted creatures to wrestle on top of the lever (pan) and NOT spring the trap. Not every animal step is exacting the same weight on the soil beneath it, so when you reach the "straw" that exceeds the camel's carrying capacity, it breaks or in this case it fires the trap........................................... my take .... the mike This makes so much sense to me. Thanks.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7194184 02/24/21 08:29 AM 02/24/21 08:29 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Pennsylvania H Hern trapper
Hern trapper H Joined: Dec 2006 Pennsylvania	Congratulations dedshaut. Neat catch. Right on Flint Hill fur. Here's couple other weird catches... Front foot catch...his only front foot Tail caught Possum... Elbow caught Grey... Nose caught Possum...

Re: First double foot catch [Re: Hern] #7194377 02/24/21 11:47 AM 02/24/21 11:47 AM
Joined: Dec 2020 NM D dedshaut OP trapper
dedshaut OP trapper D Joined: Dec 2020 NM	Originally Posted by Hern Congratulations dedshaut. Neat catch. Right on Flint Hill fur. Here's couple other weird catches... Front foot catch...his only front foot Tail caught Possum... Elbow caught Grey... Nose caught Possum... wow! those are some super crazy catches, thanks for sharing.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7194556 02/24/21 02:44 PM 02/24/21 02:44 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 central Illinois yoteguts trapper
yoteguts trapper Joined: Jul 2008 central Illinois	I’ve had a couple grinners by the tail but never by the nose. That’s a new one on me Hern. I'm itchin' to see a coyote twitchin'. More trappin' and less yappin'. Member FTA & USSA.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7195039 02/24/21 09:53 PM 02/24/21 09:53 PM
Joined: Aug 2015 NE NE W Wife trapper
Wife trapper W Joined: Aug 2015 NE NE	Caught a 2 legged coyote this year (suspect a sickle type cutter from a bean head or a windrower got him as a pup). Several 2 legged coons, a coon by the nose, skunks by the scrotum, opossums by the tail and snared a fox and this year a coyote by the mouth (Unloaded snare by the way). Never got a canine by the elbow but have caught several (9) Saw Whet owls in 220 boxes placed 4-6' above the ground and 1 in a cage trap. My boy caught a pocket gopher in a cage trap set in a hayfield. Lots of odd ones in the last 50 years............................. the mike

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7195074 02/24/21 10:26 PM 02/24/21 10:26 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 central Illinois yoteguts trapper
yoteguts trapper Joined: Jul 2008 central Illinois	Wow two legged. Haven’t seen that. Here is two more tripods I’ve caught. One missing a back leg. Front leg. I'm itchin' to see a coyote twitchin'. More trappin' and less yappin'. Member FTA & USSA.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7195075 02/24/21 10:27 PM 02/24/21 10:27 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 central Illinois yoteguts trapper
yoteguts trapper Joined: Jul 2008 central Illinois	Weird two foot catch. I'm itchin' to see a coyote twitchin'. More trappin' and less yappin'. Member FTA & USSA.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7195259 02/25/21 06:32 AM 02/25/21 06:32 AM
Joined: May 2007 Flint, Michigan bhugo trapper
bhugo trapper Joined: May 2007 Flint, Michigan	Great thread. Thanks for posting the great pics guys! Member MTPCA, FTA and NTA

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7195834 02/25/21 05:06 PM 02/25/21 05:06 PM
Joined: Dec 2020 NM D dedshaut OP trapper
dedshaut OP trapper D Joined: Dec 2020 NM	Wow, this thread turned out amazing. It's crazy how a 2 legged dog could survive so long.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7195846 02/25/21 05:25 PM 02/25/21 05:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2021 Minnesota MNEric trapper
MNEric trapper Joined: Jan 2021 Minnesota	^^^^x2

Re: First double foot catch [Re: yoteguts] #7195966 02/25/21 07:48 PM 02/25/21 07:48 PM
Joined: Dec 2020 NM D dedshaut OP trapper
dedshaut OP trapper D Joined: Dec 2020 NM	Originally Posted by yoteguts Weird two foot catch. That's nuts!

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7195997 02/25/21 08:16 PM 02/25/21 08:16 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 central Illinois yoteguts trapper
yoteguts trapper Joined: Jul 2008 central Illinois	I'm itchin' to see a coyote twitchin'. More trappin' and less yappin'. Member FTA & USSA.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7196462 02/26/21 04:53 AM 02/26/21 04:53 AM
Joined: Mar 2016 N.E. Nebr L LDW trapper
LDW trapper L Joined: Mar 2016 N.E. Nebr	I've taken instruction twice from Kendall and he has a ton of pictures with double foot catches in his KO traps. Most of his sets are trench sets, which would be easier to explain than a dirthole. I run almost all stepdowns, but haven't had such a catch yet.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7196806 02/26/21 01:41 PM 02/26/21 01:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Pennsylvania H Hern trapper
Hern trapper H Joined: Dec 2006 Pennsylvania	Neat pictures folks. I had some front/back foot catches, but no pics.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7197044 02/26/21 05:34 PM 02/26/21 05:34 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 central Illinois yoteguts trapper
yoteguts trapper Joined: Jul 2008 central Illinois	Lol Herb, I’ve had that on grinners but not yotes. I'm itchin' to see a coyote twitchin'. More trappin' and less yappin'. Member FTA & USSA.

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