Hate? You guys are really stretching it.

Seems you don't understand how the vaccine like everything else in this country has been politicized. It breeds a general distrust in the government. That's why you're witnessing resistance to the shot.

A touch dramatic here.

I suppose getting the vaccine is a validation/trust in government. That is probably the reason for any voicing of disparity.

The drama is from the ones going on about like their choice is the only one have not seen one thread about how stupid it is to not get the shot get real.

So I can clarify one last time. It makes no difference to me wether you get a shot or not. That is your choice. What I have been trying to inform you about is this. Once the vaccines come available to anyone and everyone. Private companies maybe forced in order to do business. To only allow vaccinated people to be employed or allowed in there buildings. Why you may ask. Lawsuits!!! Someone gets Covid. The patient dies and it is determined it is Covid. Link it to a building or employee of the establishment. This is how Covid is tracked. A business will do whatever it takes to protect themselves. One lawsuit over a death to a small business is a way to go out of business.

I will say it-It is stupid not to get vaccinated for any disease when the vaccine is available.-Unless you have an allergy to a certain vaccine.
Since there are several proven vaccines available for covid there is no issue.
People in democratic societys have the option to be stupid and not get the vaccine.
That is why natural selection works so well.

Natural selection would be those getting it and dying vs those getting it and surviving.

The vaccine is keeping an inferior specimen alive.

There is no proven vaccine for covid 19.

These vaccines you speak of are experimental vaccines, every one of them.

Big difference in Experimental and Proven.

But some folks choose to be uninformed!

They are all proven to keep you from getting sick from covid.
The only thing they are not 100% positive of yet is that those who get/have the covid who got vaccinated can still spread it and cause those who have not got the vaccine to become sick.
They are fairly sure that will not happen but they cannot say yet 100%.

Proven to do what?

Reduce the impact of the virus on people and keep you out of the hospital and that’s it!

I have a card of all of my children's vaccination as they are required for school entry. They have been giving vaccination cards out for years.

anyone read the link I posted above? not saying its 100 percent fact but enough of it has been proven they will have to vaccinate my corpse!

From mediabiasfactcheck site: "Overall, we rate Principia Scientific International (PSI) a strong conspiracy and Pseudoscience website that promotes anti-vaccine propaganda and frequent misinformation regarding climate change. (D. Van Zandt 7/18/2017) Updated (9/26/2019)" https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/principia-scientific-international

This is just information only: For probably every site that is pasted here that is anti-shot I could probably post 10 that are pro-shot and vice-versa, you'll have to do your own research to get thru the chaff to the straw. As far as shot cards what is the big deal.

I did. Thanks! Was familiar with some, but not all of the topics touched on.

The only folks I know of that got the shot(s) around here are older. Many I spoke with in March/April of 2020, and they were commenting on how they’d be the first in line when a “vaccine” was available. They were too. Many of my friends are in the healthcare profession. NONE have got the vaccine and say they won unless it’s mandated. A couple said they’d just find a new job.

Funny that many of the sources in the article were described as conspiracy theorist. Now that the things they spoke/wrote about years ago are true, they’re still conspiracy theorist.

Nothing anyone says for or against the vaccines changes the VERY low death rate, or that nobody knows for sure what changes the vaccines may make to the human immune system. I’m not gonna be a guinea pig.

Of course I believe the election was stolen and that the communist are just warming up. I came to those conclusions on my own, through the use of rational thought.

Boco has not provided his definition of Proven so I am not sure what he is thinking.

None of the covid 19 vaccines are Approved by the FDA in the normal sense of what FDA Approval consists of. All of these vaccines are listed by the FDA as experimental. Early testing indicated that they may be effective at either curbing the rate of infection or the severity of the infection based on data supplied by the manufacturers. None of these claims have really been proven short or long term and neither has the safety of the vaccine been proven either.

They have not been Proven to perform as stated for 30 day, three months or 3 years. There is obviously data that suggests they will be effective and safe but not all researchers agree with the data or the methods used to collect that data. Only time will tell which side of the debate is most correct. In the meantime, each one of us has to consider the information that is available and decide if we want to participate in this experiment now or wait for more data. As experimental drugs, the manufacturers can not be held liable for any adverse effects that they may cause so we are on our own with our decision.

Now, IF and When, the FDA full approval is obtained, I can certainly see the probability for proof of vaccination being required to do certain things. But again, this is not something new. It has been that way for as long as I can remember.

But the way that many, if not most, of us believe that this virus has been politicized and the information manipulated to support an agenda, it is hard to analyze data that may or may not be factual to make an informed decision. But to claim that these vaccines have already been Proven is a joke!

I read the science peer reviews,not the tinfoil hat wingnut crap.

Yes, I have been studying it. Thanks for posting......