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sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof #7223633
03/22/21 02:25 PM
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i see a lot of modified traps have sterling swivels. what would be the advantage of a sterling over a mb crunch proof?
besides making them yourself?
just curious.

Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: s^s] #7223635
03/22/21 02:28 PM
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Sterlings are practically indestructible. Bad thing is you need access to a welder

Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: s^s] #7223654
03/22/21 02:51 PM
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I've read that it is easier to bed a trap with a sterling type swivel. I'm thinking of trying them on a few traps under the baseplate. If I have an trap that is being a pain, it is almost always due to it rocking on the CP swivel.

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Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: s^s] #7223668
03/22/21 03:07 PM
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I’ve got some jc connor rod swivels, they do bed a little easier, I think every other swivel I own is a crunch proof. All it takes for them is an extra wack or two with hammer to get the trap bed bowled out.

Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: s^s] #7223677
03/22/21 03:13 PM
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Bed easier and don’t plug up near as bad with grass.

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Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: s^s] #7223679
03/22/21 03:15 PM
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The PIT heavey duty swivel is a good swivel to attach to the "D" ring at the trap base, it lays flat and there is no trap "wobble".

Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: s^s] #7223757
03/22/21 05:24 PM
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Lay flater, bed better


Let me sugar coat this
Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: s^s] #7223759
03/22/21 05:29 PM
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I know some guys like the soft soil bedding system but if you the "wedge style" bed,only the jaws and springs touch soil.

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Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: s^s] #7224390
03/23/21 10:40 AM
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^^^^ this is what I call Zaggers method and it solves the problem nicely. I like the rod swivels though as they are very tough.

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Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: s^s] #7225450
03/24/21 12:38 PM
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Rob are you bending your own J hooks and if so have you found any nails that are harder than others ?

Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: s^s] #7225460
03/24/21 12:48 PM
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Nails are the hardest thing. They have got thinner heads here in the last 15 years or so. The best I have found are menards 30d. I have a Jason Dufresne bender. It rocks. I also add a washer to my nail swivels. You can about spin the trap by blowing on it. Lol. Very easy. I’ve caugh hundreds of yotes with them and they have always performed flawlessly. I have had crunch proofs so plugged up with grassi doubt they worked. Also a giant pain in th butt to clean all that grass out of them.
If I thought there was a demand for it I would start making custom chain rigs when I retire.




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Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: s^s] #7225490
03/24/21 01:15 PM
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I acquired some bmi #2s an really like the design of their swivel at the baseplate. Sets basically flush with baseplate when bedded. Also the harris trap has an interesting base swivel as well.

Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: yoteguts] #7225566
03/24/21 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by yoteguts
Nails are the hardest thing. They have got thinner heads here in the last 15 years or so. The best I have found are menards 30d. I have a Jason Dufresne bender. It rocks. I also add a washer to my nail swivels. You can about spin the trap by blowing on it. Lol. Very easy. I’ve caugh hundreds of yotes with them and they have always performed flawlessly. I have had crunch proofs so plugged up with grassi doubt they worked. Also a giant pain in th butt to clean all that grass out of them.
If I thought there was a demand for it I would start making custom chain rigs when I retire.


What’s a dozen run for?

Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: yoteguts] #7225819
03/24/21 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by yoteguts
Nails are the hardest thing. They have got thinner heads here in the last 15 years or so. The best I have found are menards 30d. I have a Jason Dufresne bender. It rocks. I also add a washer to my nail swivels. You can about spin the trap by blowing on it. Lol. Very easy. I’ve caugh hundreds of yotes with them and they have always performed flawlessly. I have had crunch proofs so plugged up with grassi doubt they worked. Also a giant pain in th butt to clean all that grass out of them.
If I thought there was a demand for it I would start making custom chain rigs when I retire.

Well I am retired kind of monkey doing my own but it ,,a guy have look at part and piece to see plus labor then shipping .
But put a sterling or something like it or jc conner rod dog on all new traps they bed way faster easier.
Beartooth trapper has got some of the long j-hooks I like also.


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Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: yoteguts] #7225864
03/24/21 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by yoteguts
Nails are the hardest thing. They have got thinner heads here in the last 15 years or so. The best I have found are menards 30d. I have a Jason Dufresne bender. It rocks. I also add a washer to my nail swivels. You can about spin the trap by blowing on it. Lol. Very easy. I’ve caugh hundreds of yotes with them and they have always performed flawlessly. I have had crunch proofs so plugged up with grassi doubt they worked. Also a giant pain in th butt to clean all that grass out of them.
If I thought there was a demand for it I would start making custom chain rigs when I retire.

Could you post a picture of your bender Yoteguts? I'm always looking for a better tool.

Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: s^s] #7225889
03/24/21 10:23 PM
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More trappin' and less yappin'.



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Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: s^s] #7225897
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Thanks! That does make nice j hooks.

Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: s^s] #7225900
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Anytime. I’ve owned a lot of different benders and this one is the best I’ve used.
I think trappergbus posted a conners swivel with a 30d nail jhook. I made up a few like that and they worked well also. If I got that idea from someone else I’m sorry I can’t recall it correctly.




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Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: yoteguts] #7225906
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Originally Posted by yoteguts
Anytime. I’ve owned a lot of different benders and this one is the best I’ve used.


Jason never did anything halfassed.

Re: sterling swivels vs mb crunch proof [Re: yoteguts] #7225944
03/25/21 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by yoteguts
Nails are the hardest thing. They have got thinner heads here in the last 15 years or so. The best I have found are menards 30d. I have a Jason Dufresne bender. It rocks. I also add a washer to my nail swivels. You can about spin the trap by blowing on it. Lol. Very easy. I’ve caugh hundreds of yotes with them and they have always performed flawlessly. I have had crunch proofs so plugged up with grassi doubt they worked. Also a giant pain in th butt to clean all that grass out of them.
If I thought there was a demand for it I would start making custom chain rigs when I retire.


I don't think you'd have a problem staying busy. Bridger and Duke both make quality coyote traps, unfortunately the chains do need to be upgraded.

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