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Re: Bitcoin clears 20k [Re: white17] #7196363
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Originally Posted by white17
I think if/when the stimulus bill passes we will see a sell off , not a rally. But I think, in the long run we will see 4450 or thereabouts on the S&P by year end. It won't be fun getting there though.



15 plus percent increase. I suppose anything is possible with multiple more stimulus bills, plus the FED will reignite QE. The free market is increasing bond yields, the FED won't tolerate that much longer.

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There is no chance interest rates will rise this year.. Everybody is getting on the train when it's ready to go off the cliff. Keep some powder dry

Re: Bitcoin clears 20k [Re: Steven 49er] #7196594
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Originally Posted by white17
I think if/when the stimulus bill passes we will see a sell off , not a rally. But I think, in the long run we will see 4450 or thereabouts on the S&P by year end. It won't be fun getting there though.



15 plus percent increase. I suppose anything is possible with multiple more stimulus bills, plus the FED will reignite QE. The free market is increasing bond yields, the FED won't tolerate that much longer.


The fed may not like it but there isn't much they can do about it.

If they start pumping more cash into the system it will just drive the 10 year note's yield that much higher. The fed is really in a bind IMO.


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Re: Bitcoin clears 20k [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7197605
02/27/21 12:15 AM
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IMHO the FED has been in a bind since they tried to solve the 08 crisis by lowering rates to zero and QE.

Tjey will have to pump more money into the system. It isn't the right thing to do but they'll do it anyway.

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Re: Bitcoin clears 20k [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7198006
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I agree. Been a long time. But look at Japan. They have been in negative real territory for decades and can't find a way out.

The problem today is the ten year yield is rising very quickly............due to increased perception of inflation. The fed doesn't dare add cash or that will just heighten that perception and push that yield even higher. Add 1.9 trillion from congress and it will just compound the problem.

I think, at this point , the only tool the Fed has left is to manipulate the yield curve at all maturities. That will work for a day or two but everyone can see through that.

Musical chairs on the Titanic !!



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The deficit is past the point of fix or repair in any ones life time over 45, not going to happen and even trying to do so most won't live to see an equality in spending and use.

I'm sorry about it as well, the kids kids don't have much chance either, terribly said but we the people are as responsible for it as the government printing it.

One cannot just stand by and expect the government change anything with out speaking out in force enough to make your self heard, this country has not the fortitude to do so at this time !!


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Re: Bitcoin clears 20k [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7198148
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Just sold some number 1 bare bright copper today $2.85 and rising. Scrap is rising. After selling sheet for 50.00 a ton. Good to see it at 130.00 a ton now. Something is rising Stock market has sure turned. Waiting to watch it settle so I can buy.

Re: Bitcoin clears 20k [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7198400
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Ken, no way can they let rates rise. They will destroy the $ before they figure out how bad they messed up although they will blame it on the Russians(sarcasm)

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Re: Bitcoin clears 20k [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7198405
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These next couple weeks are going too be fun

Re: Bitcoin clears 20k [Re: Steven 49er] #7198641
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Ken, no way can they let rates rise. They will destroy the $ before they figure out how bad they messed up although they will blame it on the Russians(sarcasm)


For sure there is no way THEY will raise rates but the bond market is a pretty powerful thing.

It really ISN'T a joke about the Russians..... laugh The Iranians, Chinese and Russians are all deeply involved in Bitcoin mining in an attempt to dethrone the dollar as the world's reserve currency.........So it really IS the Russians !


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Re: Bitcoin clears 20k [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7198865
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It's not the Russians fault we decided to become a consumer driven economy backed by debt.

It wasn't the Russians fault we abandoned a sound money policy when it comes to our money.

It's not their fault federal government has 160 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities.

The bond market, ie the free market, is a powerful thing and eventually it will win. I don't think today is the day though. If the free market is allowed to raise long term interest rates it will destroy the housing bubble and for then for sure it's game over.


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Re: Bitcoin clears 20k [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7198866
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Anyways, bitcoin is down to 44 and change, possible buying opportunity coming up.


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Re: Bitcoin clears 20k [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7214160
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Bitcoin broke 60k early this morning. About a 100 off atm. Litecoin getting closer to it's all time high.

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60,415 was the high according to coinbase.

100k in 2021? Or zero?


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1400$ stimmy + 10 200$ free unemployment

Bitcoin too the moon!!!

Re: Bitcoin clears 20k [Re: Steven 49er] #7214317
03/13/21 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
60,415 was the high according to coinbase.

100k in 2021? Or zero?



Former is more likely than the latter. Unless an EMP happens or cryptos are criminalized.

Re: Bitcoin clears 20k [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7230609
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Sneaking back up on 60k

Re: Bitcoin clears 20k [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7230613
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Re: Bitcoin clears 20k [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7239755
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Back over 60k, briefly over 61 this morning

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