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Anchors #7230984
03/30/21 05:42 PM
03/30/21 05:42 PM
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Oklahoma
Blaine County Offline OP
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I am spending a lot of time getting ready for next season now. A lot of you guys know way more than me so I am going to start asking more questions (and I love the archives and always read this page). Plus, it keeps me out of trouble on the main forum. Many thanks in advance.

I have used Wolf Fangs for years. For whatever reason, I had lots of problems with Wolf Fangs last season. I switched to Duckbills/Super Stakes towards the end and really like them. I have really heavy clay and rocks in some areas and the Wolf Fangs wouldn't release from the driver and would come back up. I tried filing on the driver--I don't know what the problem was.

Anyway, there is a huge cost difference even when I assemble my own. What do y'all think? Switch?

Also, I want to buy/build a stake puller and was thinking that is another reason to switch. Should this be a factor? I've never used one.

Thanks again.



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Re: Anchors [Re: Blaine County] #7231081
03/30/21 07:07 PM
03/30/21 07:07 PM
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W NY
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I'd take a look at the wolf fangs to make sure you didn't get a bad lot. And another look at the driver with a file You might have a burr or something bent. Season is a long way off and you'll have time to find the problem. I have very Rocky ground and have no trouble with wolf fangs. Your stake puller will pull the wolf fangs. I made one from a 5 foot bar a piece of chain and a hook


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Re: Anchors [Re: Blaine County] #7231116
03/30/21 07:41 PM
03/30/21 07:41 PM
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Great point. I'm headed out to the shop to inspect some of the new and older ones I have. Thank you.


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Re: Anchors [Re: Blaine County] #7231118
03/30/21 07:42 PM
03/30/21 07:42 PM
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Rodney,Ohio
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Bullet stakes with the the retrieval cables makes life a ton easier. Haven't really tried them in rockier areas so I'm not sure how well they'd go through hard rock like the spade type disposables. Rock I just go to drags or extensions.

Last edited by SNIPERB🦝; 03/30/21 07:43 PM.
Re: Anchors [Re: Blaine County] #7231152
03/30/21 08:27 PM
03/30/21 08:27 PM
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Thanks Sniper.


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Re: Anchors [Re: Blaine County] #7231291
03/30/21 09:39 PM
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I used a mix of super stakes and wolf fangs last season and overall I was not impressed with the wolf fangs, constantly getting stuck in driver, bent more than I could count in rocky ground. The super stakes performed flawlessly, all I'll use from here on out.

Re: Anchors [Re: Blaine County] #7231349
03/30/21 10:08 PM
03/30/21 10:08 PM
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Jesse--In the past, I liked the Wolf Fangs. Something was different this year.

I got distracted and didn't do my inspection this evening.


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Re: Anchors [Re: Blaine County] #7231376
03/30/21 10:23 PM
03/30/21 10:23 PM
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Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Jesse--In the past, I liked the Wolf Fangs. Something was different this year.

I got distracted and didn't do my inspection this evening.

I uses them some last season and liked them, but this year was nothing but issues. I believe part of the reason they bend so easily is you're pounding on the very back of the anchor when driving, unlike the super steaks you're hammering on the solid point

Re: Anchors [Re: Blaine County] #7231385
03/30/21 10:29 PM
03/30/21 10:29 PM
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I tried the wolf fangs but were hard to drive in most soil in my areas. I still mostly use the standard berkshires for most coyote sets and some bobcat sets. I have found it works best to make a pilot hole first for the berkshires and sometimes use my berkshire driver to make the pilot hole for the wolf fangs too.
I do use some drags and at times use a trap with a drag setup chained around a tree with a heavy carabeaner or chain repair link around the chain.
Mountain lions can be problem around here. The last thing you want is for a lion to run off with your trap.


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Re: Anchors [Re: SNIPERB🦝] #7231595
03/31/21 06:23 AM
03/31/21 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
Bullet stakes with the the retrieval cables makes life a ton easier..


we make them for some customers and they say they are the cats meow in our eastern clay


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Re: Anchors [Re: traprjohn] #7231638
03/31/21 08:02 AM
03/31/21 08:02 AM
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Rodney,Ohio
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Originally Posted by traprjohn
Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
Bullet stakes with the the retrieval cables makes life a ton easier..


we make them for some customers and they say they are the cats meow in our eastern clay

Especially if you move traps alot like dps.

Re: Anchors [Re: Blaine County] #7234308
04/03/21 05:37 PM
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Hard to beat MB Super stakes on chain!

Re: Anchors [Re: Blaine County] #7234347
04/03/21 06:22 PM
04/03/21 06:22 PM
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Oklahoma
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I went with the duckbills. I should get them soon and will build 100. I still have a bunch of wolffangs and will use those up too (and I filed the crap out of my driver).


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Re: Anchors [Re: Blaine County] #7238305
04/08/21 03:33 PM
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NC
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I have used pogos for awhile now. I enjoy making them and using them. Donít have any problems. Made my own driver, the tip is a hardened bolt. No problems.

Re: Anchors [Re: AuthorTrapper] #7239855
04/10/21 10:59 AM
04/10/21 10:59 AM
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Montana
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Jesse--In the past, I liked the Wolf Fangs. Something was different this year.

I got distracted and didn't do my inspection this evening.

Originally Posted by AuthorTrapper
Hard to beat MB Super stakes on chain!
Having moved every three years over 25 years in the Marines, I had to constantly adapt to different soils and rocky conditions over 11 states. In some soil conditions, the wolf fangs were great. At the end of the day, wolf fangs eventually bend, even if slightly enough to not see with the eye and they hang up on the driver. A quality heat treated driver helps but even then a bend fang gets caught. Finally settling here in Montana, I use only chained super stakes and love them. The only complaint I have is retrieving them. I started leaving them in the ground at some places I know Iíll trap the following year. Makes connecting traps real quick with a quick link.


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Re: Anchors [Re: Tailhunter] #7239860
04/10/21 11:01 AM
04/10/21 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Tailhunter
I have used pogos for awhile now. I enjoy making them and using them. Donít have any problems. Made my own driver, the tip is a hardened bolt. No problems.
I used pogos for a few years when I was stationed in NC. Easy as cake in sandy soul and about as cheap as you can get. I bet I wouldnít get down an inch here with them. I sure miss the sandy soils.


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Re: Anchors [Re: Blaine County] #7240572
04/11/21 08:13 AM
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I tried disposables when they first started being talked about. If your walking they could be a plus I guess. But drivers and pullers kinda screw that up too. I trap out of a pick-up and off a four wheeler. I use 1/2 inch rebar with a 5/8 nut welded on top, or drags. They last forever. So lots cheaper. Some western cat sets I will walk in. Climb on foot really. Not often though. Even cats will cross whatever trail your driving on at some point. If I beaver trap its with a boat. This is 2021. There just is no reason to not use an internal combustion engine. Unless maybe your just catching a few critters to protect your chickens and get some exercise or something. Or maybe your 15 and your only transportation is a bicycle.

Rebar cross staked. A whole lot less problems. Cheaper. Don't wear out. Pull them with a 28 ounce estwing straight claw framing hammer. Same hammer you dug your trap bed and drove them in with. (once in a while an adjustable spanner wrench or vise-grip plier to turn them a couple turns and facilitate pulling.)

Simple effective and cheap, no gimmicks, is still what I prefer.


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Re: Anchors [Re: Blaine County] #7240613
04/11/21 09:28 AM
04/11/21 09:28 AM
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I trap off a 4 wheeler and truck too,and there's no way in this country are you going to set close to the two tracks without serious losses.And here in Michigan,anyway,the moment your vehicle leaves the trail subjects you to violations from the COs.We have alot of sand here,there's no way your not going to leave to road numerous times checking traps that your not going to make your own two track.Granted,I use more drags than stakes nowadays but walking off the trail to get away from the weekend warrior crowd is a fact of life up here,always has been and always will be.Small game hunters,bear hunters,sight seers,use these same 2 tracks,let alone a good share of the 700,000 annual deer license buyers.And in our sugar sand conditions disposables hold fantastic,I have yet to lose a coyote pulling a disposable,and I've never had to double stake them.Bullet stakes and wolf fangs work great in this country.My re rod stakes have joined other relics from the coyote line,like using No3 Herters and No.4 Newhouses.


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Re: Anchors [Re: Blaine County] #7240625
04/11/21 09:46 AM
04/11/21 09:46 AM
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Iím to cheap to walk away from a super stake.

Cheapest I could get em made was about $1.24.

I can make a wolf fang for about .60 cents. I can make a pogo a heck of a lot cheaper, but alas, they donít go into western ground worth a hoot.

I need the option of being truly ďdisposableĒ.

Re: Anchors [Re: Blaine County] #7240648
04/11/21 10:32 AM
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I use the wolf fangs here in this country. It is sandy soil not much rock so they go in fine. The driver I use is to soft the more you use it the more problems you have. I am in the process of trying to make a different one out of harder material.

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