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J&J vaccine on hold #7242297
04/13/21 12:20 PM
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Dr. Fauci holding a news conference right now. I'm still waiting for the following questions by the WH press corps:
1) Did the Biden Administration rush the approval of the vaccine without proper science? It was approved Feb. 27, a month into Biden's term.
2) Did the fact that Johnson and Johnson gave $ 370,001 to the Biden campaign versus $ 106,718 to Trump influence the approval process?

I know that Trump would be asked those questions.

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7242305
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Trump issued a statement slamming the pause and wants the JJ vaccine restarted ASAP

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7242390
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These issues were known about long before the pause they just weren't talked about. Some still say/said the benefits outweigh the risks...

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7242398
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So are all of us idiots that got the J & J Vac. gonna die??? I know I am. sooner or later, we all gotta go.

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7242406
04/13/21 02:46 PM
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There will be more cases of this reported, just FYI. Though itís still likely extremely rare

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7242415
04/13/21 02:51 PM
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I heard on the news this morning they are thinking a third Pfizer shot may be required to handle the new strain.


Black widow spider was recently found in a container of grapes. Another reason not to be vegan. You never find spiders in packs of bacon.
Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7242422
04/13/21 02:56 PM
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Just saw this post....

Pa stopped it for now.

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7242427
04/13/21 02:57 PM
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Sounds like 6 people had blood clots, one of those died. 7 million have had the shot. I also read 4 million people.

But, if it's only 4 million...would we normally have at least 6 people get blood clots over a 2 week period in a city of 4 million people? .00015% have complications and .00025% have died. This really doesn't make any sense. Is there something else going on that isn't being reported?


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Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7242429
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Still relying on my antibodies. Until they prove otherwise, Iíll take my chances.

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: trapper124] #7242435
04/13/21 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by trapper124
There will be more cases of this reported, just FYI. Though itís still likely extremely rare


So doc, this is pretty interesting to me.

Of the 6 cases in the US.ALL were women between 18-48. That just screams to me that something else is involved. Birth control pharmaceuticals ??

I believe all the cases in Europe are also female.


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Hopefully we don't end up with a generation or two of messed up infants because we rushed the vaccine.

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Heard on the radio today that it was causing women to cycle prematurely and even causing postmenopausal women to have a period

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If you guys remember back, when the vaccines first came out they didn't recommend wimmen who were thinking of getting pregnant to get one.

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: hippie] #7242456
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Originally Posted by hippie
Hopefully we don't end up with a generation or two of messed up infants because we rushed the vaccine.



TOO LATE that generation just started the work force about 3-7 years ago !!!!

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You can also see them on TV...theyíre the ones ďpeacefully protesting.Ē

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Yea you guys may not know this but birth control pills themselves cause blood clots. HOW do I know ? My wife had 2 strokes from clots and it was linked to her being on the pill so long. What happened you may or may not ask? I got fixed and she got off the pill. No issues since .........

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Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
Heard on the radio today that it was causing women to cycle prematurely and even causing postmenopausal women to have a period


That's been going on for thousands of years LOL!!!!!!

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: grumpa] #7242491
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Originally Posted by grumpa
So are all of us idiots that got the J & J Vac. gonna die??? I know I am. sooner or later, we all gotta go.

Yes you will all die just not from the vaccine. I Wouldn't say youre an idiot either. Im sure you understand the risks just like the risks of getting covid. I dont think people should be ridiculed or have to prove if they do or dont take the vaccine.

My Dad is on two blood anticoagulants. He had the chance to be vaccinated a month maybe longer ago due to working in the food industry. When offered he looked into the vaccines efdectiveness and their side effects to see if he was gonna get one. He found blood clots to be one of them. Being he goes in for labs every two weeks he asked his doctor on their recommendation. They recommended him not get the vaccine and made the comment they wished more people would look into the vaccine and ask their doctor about concerns.

Re: J&J vaccine on hold [Re: corky] #7242500
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Also im not anti vaccine by any stretch. Im just against the idea or notion of saying that vaccines are 100 percent safe and cant cause serious side effects. That simply is kept hush hush.

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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by trapper124
There will be more cases of this reported, just FYI. Though itís still likely extremely rare


So doc, this is pretty interesting to me.

Of the 6 cases in the US.ALL were women between 18-48. That just screams to me that something else is involved. Birth control pharmaceuticals ??

I believe all the cases in Europe are also female.


Too early to tell. I donít know all the data on the 6 reported. I know there are more cases than have not been reported thus far though. It may just be the statistical baseline incidence but the temporal relation raises some concern.

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